My understanding is that the word ਹਦੀਸਾ is SINGULAR. The word refers to a Book containing ਹਦੀਸ................ The word ਹਦੀਸ.................. is PLURAL One should grasp a very peculiar pattern of Noun Words in three sistinct Form as one can take a Note like the word Gobindu/Gobind and Gobindaa. All the Noun words can be seen in this fashion thruout Gurbanee.by prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
My understanding is that there is no such reference in Gurbanee which can be refered as GOD. Numerical number one can not be taken to refer for something ONE as we usually interprate as GOD IS ONE.THere is no such message in Gurbanee.In this context I feel it is all misconception. This can be understrood by way of Gurbanee grammar. If one considers the grammar of the word GOD one can seeby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
One can give a thinking to a Quote from Gurbanee as ॥ ਹਰਿ ਮੰਦਰੁ ਏਹੁ ਸਰੀਰੁ ਹੈ ਗਿਆਨਿ ਰਤਨਿ ਪਰਗਟੁ ਹੋਇ ॥ ਮਨਮੁਖ ਮੂਲੁ ਨ ਜਾਣਨੀ ਮਾਣਸਿ ਹਰਿ ਮੰਦਰੁ ਨ ਹੋਇ ॥੨॥ pp1346 SGGS ji. There are several such quotes in Gurbanee which provide us with the real knowledge abouby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Well there is no such description about the parts of body in Gurbanee as elucidated in other religious scriptures.If there is any I must have overlooked. In Gurbanee every description is related to three words GuRoo/GuRu and GuR. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.S.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
It is very interesting to understand that when one thinks of about some indications of various matras as grammar of Gurbanee words while making interpretation of Gurbanee Quotes there are reservations and every Preacher or Scholar of Past or Present is selective in telling the application of these grammatical indications. A very vivid example is about the very first SYMBOL .Still it remaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
In Gurbanee the word GAREEBEE is the reference for 1..EXTERNALLY as Humility in behaviour and outward appearance 2,INTERNALLY be always in WANT of NAAMu from GuRu ji. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.s.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
From Gurbanee one can know that Human Form is the best opportunity to realise the union with PARBRAHM,PARMESAR,SATiGuR Once this opportunity is wasted or slipped away there is again a cycle of Births and Rebiths So one should try to learn from Gurbanee How to make the best use of this opprtunity to get rid of this Cycle of Births and Rebiths. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.S.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
So one should be interested and concerned with the ONE AND SPECIFIC meanings of Gurbanee words.And this is indicated thru the matra of Aukad,Dulaikad,Bihaee or Sharee for such particular word There is only one SPECIFIC MEANING.for all such words. One should not lost himself in varieties of meanings without understanding the context of the application of the word Bhul Chuk Maaf Daasby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
According to Mahan kosh the meaning of kookar is: ਸੰ. ਕੁੱਕੁਰ. {ਸੰਗ੍ਯਾ}. ਕੁੱਤਾ. "ਕੂਕਰ ਸੂਕਰ ਕਹੀਐ ਕੂੜਿਆਰਾ". (ਮਾਰੂ ਸੋਲਹੇ ਮਃ ੫)। (2) ਦੇਖੋ, ਤਿਨਹਿ PRITAM SINGH Ji, If the word ਕੁੱਕੁਰ. is NOUN then this word should have a matra of AUKAD under its letter R Which you mayby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
From Gurbanee one can learn there is nothing beyond the word GuROO. One can look at this Quote from Gurbaneeas "Nanak Kae Ghari Kewal Naamu" It is all Naamu only. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.S.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ਹਮ ਕੂਕਰ ਤੇਰੇ ਦਰਬਾਰਿ ॥ ਭਉਕਹਿ ਆਗੈ ਬਦਨੁ ਪਸਾਰਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ pp969 SGGS ji. It is always important to consider the contxt of application of particular word in Gurbanee. The word KOOKAR is modification of the word KOOK which means YELL or TO YELL. and KOOKAR means one who Yells. DOG LIKE. So the word KOOK andby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
I findit is very interesting to understand the intrisic meanings of the word "HAUMAE" In different context this word can have different meanings.This word can be a reference for what we call as "EGO" but in other contxt this word can refer to "EXTREME ATTACHMENT" for specfic thing or matter. One can learn from Gurbanee that HUAMAE is stated to be the cause of Birth and rebirths anby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
One can see a Quote from Gurbanee about the reference of ਰਤੰਨੁ ਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਸਬਦੁ ਰਤੰਨੁ ਹੈ ਹੀਰੇ ਜਿਤੁ ਜੜਾਉ ॥ ਸਬਦੁ ਰਤਨੁ ਜਿਤੁ ਮੰਨੁ ਲਾਗਾ ਏਹੁ ਹੋਆ ਸਮਾਉ ॥ ਸਬਦ ਸੇਤੀ ਮਨੁ ਮਿਲਿਆ ਸਚੈ ਲਾਇਆ ਭਾਉ ॥ ਆਪੇ ਹੀਰਾ ਰਤਨੁby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ਓਅੰ ਸਾਧ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਨਮਸਕਾਰੰ ॥ ਆਦਿ ਮਧਿ ਅੰਤਿ ਨਿਰੰਕਾਰੰ One can observe that the word ਓਅੰ is common for almost every sect in Eastern part of the word. The very first SYMBOL in Gurbanee is also based on this word ਓਅੰ along with prefix as Numerical Number ONE and Suffix as a Curved line refered as KAAR. One caby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ns44 ji,, I am really impressed with your views in above two messages you have posted.. The contents are very clear in what one should learn from Gurbanee. Excellent. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.s.baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
You can end any discussion by quoting that Vaheguroo Ji is the judge While I agree with your views .In context of Gurbanee deliberations one may agree or disagree depending upon the level of Bibek gifted by VahiGuROO ji. But Vahi GuRo ji does not auhorise any one to become JUDGE.. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.s.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
I think WAHiGuROO is the only judge. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daasby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Sikh learner ji, Prbably you are considering the very first SYMBOL of the soknown Mool Mantar. The SYMBOL basically consist of three parts as 1..Numerical Number 1 Pronounced as IK or EK not confirmed what should be correct 2...A WORD.This word is written as ਓਅੰ and Sikhs pronounce this as OAN/ONG whereas Hindu might pronounce this as OUM 3...A curved line This is knownby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
gsingh ji, Can you post any quote for the word Ik Oankaar fron within Gurbanee to confirm that GuRu Sahib combined three words like that.. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.s.baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
A gurmukh told me Onkar is a combination of three words gsingh ji, One can see that the word ONKAAR has two words as Word ਓਅੰ and word KAAR by adding these two word one gets a SINGLE WORD as ONKAAR. bhul chuk maaf Daas Prakash.s.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
One can look a Quote from Gurbanee as ਗਾਵੈ ਕੋ ਜਾਪੈ ਦਿਸੈ ਦੂਰਿ ॥ ਗਾਵੈ ਕੋ ਵੇਖੈ ਹਾਦਰਾ ਹਦੂਰਿ ॥ One can learn from Gurbanee that any one is either Gurmukhu or Munmukhu. Who is Gurmukhu ,Who is Munmukhu is well defined in Gurbanee. So any one can see for onself what one is .? Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakas.S.Bagby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
I want to know the meaning of Ek Oankar. Does it have any link with hindu word 'Om' ? Sikh.Learner ji, There is no such reference in Gurbanee as IK OANKAAR or EK OANKAAR. So pl first it would be better if you post it with proper quote from Gurbanee then only it would be possible for any one to answer your question. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.s.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Prakash Singh jee, what do you mean that Sikhism is close to Sanatan Dharma? Kulbir Veer Ji, When did I say like that.? I consider your views as your own assumption.. I fully understand what Sanatan Dharam is and How this is Different from Sikhi. The given quote from Gurbanee is an example to substantiate that difference only. From Gurbanee one also learns that"Sikhi Sihiyaa GuR Sababy prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Having connections does not mean accepting each and everything. Dhruv, Prahalada, Vashisht and many others are praised by Gurbani as Gurmukhs which is a proof of these 'connections'. In accepting this there is no danger of Sikhism losing its separate identity These are really appreciable views.One can always compare the views from different sources to correctly interprate the Gurmati view..by prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
From Gurbanee one can learn as ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰੇਸਟ ਧਰਮੁ ॥ ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਕਰਮੁ This is the concept of Dharam according to Gurbanee. Now one should see in reference of this concept how close Sikhism is to Sanatan Dharam? Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.S.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
For outer assertiveness I dont think there is any Quote in Gurbanee. However one can se the reference for the word Khalsaa very much there in Gurbanee. undoubtedly there is great significance of Outer assertiveness and one can appreciate that outer assertiveness gives Khalsaa the look like Physical GuROO and thus this is a great gift from 10th Nanak GuRu Gobind Singh ji and maintaininby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
I think there is nothing on record how Gurbanee words used to be pronounced by any of our GuRu in their times. So the matter of pronunciation is going to remain subjective .I am of the view that instead being subjective for pronunciation it would always be woth to pronounce the word as wrtitten. Why to indulge in an ever inconclusive point in context of Gurbanee .? Bhul Chuk Maaf Daby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Bagga jee then i suppose we should call you Prakas S. Bagga now In fact many people do so and I understand them comfortably. Daas Prakash.s.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Well it is very true that SIKHI is quite unique in its various concepts right from Gurbanee to the concept of Khalsaa as envisaged by our 10th Nanak GuRu Gobind Singh Ji. My understanding is that it should not be so easy to become Khalsaa for anyperson without acquiring the necessary qualification of 100% Love for WAHi GuROO..This affection for WAHi GuROO is only thru the grace of GuR JOTiby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum
From Gurbanee one learns that ਰਤਨੁ ਹਰਿ is refered to Gurmati RAAM NAAMu/ HARi NAAMu only. Bhul Chuk Maaf Daas Prakash.S.Baggaby prakash.s.bagga - Gurmat Discussion Forum