ਇਆਣਾ should not be considered as FOOL. A child or child like behavior is the proper meaning. I wonder how the Punjabi translations or teeka are also inferring ਇਆਣਾ as fool.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Thank you Veer Ji, that makes it. I was thinking it could be ਪੋਖਨਹਾਰ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ਹੈ ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲ ਨ ਊਰਾ॥ Which means that He is not ਊਰਾ in doing ਪ੍ਰਤਿਪਾਲ. But I could not find PAD CHHED like that in AMRIT KIRTAN as well. So yours explanation makes it clear. Dhanwaad Ji.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Sangat Ji, Please help about meanings of second Pankiti of this Pouri.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Guru Nanak Dev Sahib Ji tells us about God. We believe what Guru Sahib tells us. In the absence of that, we know nothing about God. I repeat, I know nothing about God. I do not know whether He was massenger or God Himself, but He was my personal God. May be , I would have answered this question like that.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Bhein ji, It is page 41 in the book. I have not the book at this time. May be when I get it, I will quote the words.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
That is very very sad. There must be an effort to check that.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Interesting story by singh ji and good write up by sk ji. Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji and other sikh saints and writers have written very strongly about gender equality as an important GURMAT principle. Bhai Sahib Ji has written that in JOT VIGAS and Prof Puran Singh Ji in The Spirit Born People.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Thank u Veer Ji. Vadhian to all Gursikhs here.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh That is very good news for all. BC sikhs are doing progress as community.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Agreed. But I would like to say it in a different and broader way. Waheguru is one. It is one for all. It is all powerful to create and manage every thing, all religions so called, every positivity or negativity, all isms, may be theism or atheism. All worship HIM alone, (even though they appear atheists.) All are looking for HIM alone. But their knowledge or concept of Waheguru is difby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji ki Fateh sk bhein ji, I agree with u, in first para. So true. Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji discuuses this subject in detail in "KI SIRI GURU GRANTH SAHIB DI POOJA BUT PRASTI HAI". He proves to english doctors in debate that GURBANI worship is exactly the worship of AKAL PURAKH himself. Allah is one of the many gods for a community; it is new information forby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Veer Kulbir Singh Ji, you are right to state that in written words, sometimes we miss or could not convey our real feelings. May be it is happening here too. I also agree that SANGAT is supreme. Even if one is not satisfied or convinced with some viewpoint, he should surrender to SANGAT's will. We are not supposed to act against the wishes of SANGAT. Surely if KHALSA PANTH has resolved for somethby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
It is strange, how much intolerant we are to the opposite-view point; especially if it sounds against our religious belief. With that degree of intolerance in our debate-mode; we deserve to achieve nothing. If someone dreams about a "state" for us; we are so eager & happy to anounce him a great gurmukh and if a gursikh disagrees with us on a certain point, we find it so easy to doubt his motives.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Thank you all Veer Ji Bhein Ji. I had to see the dictionary for definition of Deity. It could be one or multiple, depending on the people who believe. "Some religions have one supreme deity, while others have multiple deities of various ranks." So new questions come up now. Based on the Wikipedia definition; is it incorrect to say, sikhs believe in one supreme deity, Almighty? If Allahby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Kulbir Singh When "Allah" or even "Gopal", "Gobind" (names of Siri Krishna) are used in Gurbani, they are mostly used for Vaheguru but the "Allah" whose messenger was Prophet Muhammad is not Vaheguru to whom Sikhs worship but a deity similar to Shiva, Brahma etc. I am unable to apprehend the compulsion to prove that ALAH is a deity. When Gurbani is saying it otherwise, why we need to prove,by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
DISCUSSION: At certain stage of the discussion, some remarks were seemingly unnecessary. Those remarks not only annoy others but also make the real topic difficult to be solved fruitfully. (We have already shifted this topic from "Women in Panj Pyare" to "Khalsa Raj" thanks to some harsh comments). Comments telling about MUKTI should have been avoided at first place. No one can tell about thatby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Political sovereignty for Khalsa, according to this DOHA; is not an outcome of any political struggle or ambition or aim; as one is not supposed to talk about political insecurity or inadequacy after praying to Akal Purakh during Ardaas; it is the dominance of Khalsa over the spiritual, social including political system of the world, because of exhausting of all other systems to failure. As we saby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. On the path of GURMAT, how we measure our progress? May be, everyone can answer this question differently. What the GURBANI ITSELF says about that should be more apporpriate. We must look for that. I am trying to answer that with random thoughts. It is pure KIRPA. We try and GURU SAHIB helps us. Our efforts are itself the part of KIRPA. Bhai Gby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
AS A SIKH, We try to be noble, bold and free, self-drunk, selfless, flower-like, sun-like. It sweetens us and the sweetness sweetens all life around us. At our sight, the lamb and the tiger must drink at the same pool. We have the moral influence radiating peace, good-will, friendship, fellowship, life, vigour, vitality, in short, spirituality. The Sikhs are creations of Guru’s universalby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Who were the sikh GURUS The history of human civilization took a new tum when the Sikh Gurus appeared on the scene of Medieval India, It was a time when people had no sense of the real meaning of life and were indulged in useless ritualistic pursuits. The Sikh movement served as a light-house for the people groping in the dark. The people converged around this light-house, listened the ambrby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
As this discussion has shifted towards marriage, gurmat and rehat; I like to add few words here. Anand Karaj and married life afterwards; should also be treated as a REHAT. They call it GRASAT DHARAM. It had to be dutyfully taken to success as other REHATS. If one has to sacrifice a little or some of other rehats for a while; it should pay ultimately towards our religious life. As service toby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Veer Ji you have asked three types of questions. I am responding, again briefly. Is Sikhi failing? I think, it is better to say that we sikhs are failing as sikhs. Why should we say that sikhi is failing. What's the point of any other rehat when u can't get out of ur caste? Something is always better than nothing. If someone keeps REHAT and fails in "anti caste battle" ; he/she doesby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh. AAS as it appears in GURBANI seems to be different from the words desire or hope. May be it is more closer to hope. But not exactly so. It is hope, alongwith pain. And hope is not as we say, "I hope to see you". It is like "I live with the hope to see you". And AAS is never ending hope. It will not die or have the end for a man or woman of spirituby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Akall Ji You have rightly pointed out the basic weakness enherant in our families. It is so true. I also personally know, the men and women also, who are Amritdhari & good at REHAT, yet suffer from this social stigma. I feel following reasons, for this crippled behaviour. 1 There are only rare gursikhs who have attained Spiritual Upliftment up to a level, where social taboos are thrown aby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
A basic weakness in history in general, is that it narrates the events. It does not capture the mental state/transformations and spiritual aspirations of its characters. Wheresoever, whatsoever, is there in sikh history about such episodes; we should try to extract maximum from that. Those who narrate or write history; speak up their mind, along with some facts. That must be taken care of andby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh Yes veer ji. the "rian sabhai" is always there, on last saturday of the month.by MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Khalsa is, of Waheguru. It is not like that; as Kila Talwandi is your village or as the Gram crop or the Sorghum field is your property or as those dead material things are in your possession. But as the sun rays are of the Sun. As the fruit attached to the plant is of the plant. And as the water pond attached through the small stream of the spring is of the spring. Yes, Oh Dallah. So is Khaby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Here are few lines from the text, what Professor Puran Singh writes about GURU GOBIND SINGH JI saying to DALLA, i.e. talking with DALLA about the dfference of KHALSA as compared to his so called brave soldiers. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa -----------KHALSA WAHEGURU JI DA HAI. AION NAHIN JIVEN KILA TALWANDI, CHHOLE TE BAJRA TERI MAALKEE HAI TE OH MURDA CHEEZAN TERE KABZE WHICH HAN. PARR JIVEN KIRNby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
"Mechanical repetition of gurbani" has been criticized, by many "so called" comrade/communist writers. Gursikh writers including Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Ji, have rejected their writings and hypothesis. I am afraid, the above "moral" of the story may sound like that. It is logical to say that by simply repeating some chant, parrots could not/will not escape the trap thrown by hunter. Andby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
That is a very serious matter about the drainage system around Harminder Sahib. During the times of building of Harminder Sahib by Guru Sahib; the area around was not as much concrete floored. All around, their was much scope for seepage of rain water. Even the parkarma, had the scope of seepage, if there are bricks. With so many multistorey rest houses and hotels and markets all around; the areaby MB Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum