In the following pangti ਕਰਮੁਹੋਵੈਸਤਿਗੁਰੂਮਿਲਾਏ ॥ isnt the phrase ਕਰਮੁ ਹੋਵੈ a subordinate clause ( adheen vaasak)? If so, why doesnt ਕਰਮੁ have a sihari instead of aunkad?by Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteThat is something very rare now. It certainly should be spiritually rewarding to do Yatra on foot to Nander Sahib with a Jatha of Gursikhs doing kirtan along the way. How long does it take? I cannot imagine how long it takes on foot. From what I remember it takes something like 16-18 hours on the train. When one goes to Sri Hazoor Sahib they should also make efforts to attend Nanak Jheera.by Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
"Ganda singh is a very well respected historian. And we should think twice before rejecting writings of a historian who does an honest professional and well researched job. I think it would be erroneous to dismiss each and every single historical text just because the events do not hold up to khalsa ideals. At this rate what proof do you have that of any of Baba Banda Singh ji's life events. Wby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteSome of the prominent Sikhs such as Baba Binod Singh (mentioned in the letter and probably staying at that time with Bhai Mani Singh), Baba Gurbakhsh Singh and Sukha Singh prepared their own copies from the compiled copy. I have not seen the copies prepared by Baba Gurbakhsh Singh and Bhai Mani Singh but if a search is made I think they can still be found. I have seen the copy prepared byby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Inder Singh Jee, we are not interested in any type of pseudo history. You have not provided any references on Buddha Dal existing before Dal khlsa. Its common knowledge that Budda Dal and Tarna Dal came after Dal Khalsa, and the first jathedar of Dal Khalsa was Nawab Kapoor Singh Ji. You have not answered half of my questions nor have you provided any reliable sources. You go as far to referby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Everyday in Sri Jaap Sahib we recite the following verses ਕੋਟਿ ਇੰਦ੍ਰ ਇੰਦ੍ਰਾਣਿ ਸਾਹੁ ਸਾਹਾਣਿ ਗਣਿਜੈ ॥ by reciting such verses we are addressing Waaheguru JI as the King of Kings. According to Islamic belief no man can be refered to as the " King of Kings". This title alone can only be addressed to Allah. But in Gurmat there iby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Travelling a long distance to Hazoor Sahib makes the arrival at Sri Hazoor Sahib much more rewarding. Baba Attar Singh Ji and Baba Nidhan Singh Ji walked to Sri Hazoor Sahib. I think Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji walked that far as well. If one doesnt have time constraints they should definitely chose the train over plane. Such efforts lead to a greater reward.by Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Quote"That letter or hukamnama was written in 1710. Bnada singh joined khalsa in 1708. But if you have a look at that letter it says " I onkar , Fateh darshan". There waheguru ji ki fateh is substituted by Fateh darshan." Do you mean to tell me there is no possibility that someone tampered with the letters and wrote "Darshan Fateh ", instead of traditional fateh. If noboby tampered with the letby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Inder Singh, you keep quoting questionable sources. Sources which have not been written according to Gurmat Maryada. We cant rely on history which contradicts Gurbani or maryada. Kavi Seva Singh did not write according to Gurmat Maryada. He writes Shaheed Bha Mani Singh Ji would take bhang ( sukha) regularly. ਆਸਾ ਵਾਰ ਸੁਖਾਂ ਦੀ ਖਾਣੀ I ੧੮੨ Bhang is prby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
If you have historical pictures for personal inspiration or to remind you of Sikh history then there is no harm, but if you are bowing to pictures or meditating on such pictures then such pictures can be a hinderence to spiritual development. I think inspirational pictures can be used as a good tool to keep the young interested in Sikh history and Sikh leaders. I remember as a child lookingby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Vaccninations for flus contain chicken guts. I know this first hand. I remember some years ago my job recommended I take a flu shot as many people at work were catching the flu. When I went to the hospital ( Kaiser Hospital) , the lady was about to inject me, but I thought I should at least ask if there are animal parts in the injection. She said yes there is chicken parts ( guts) in the flu shotby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteBansavalinama introduces these three singhs to Baba Banda singh in form of a dialogue between them and Baba ji.It does not say that they were chosen by Guru sahib to accompany him.If so please show us here. You call Bhai kesar singh ji chhibber as Brahmin because he writes that Baba Banda singh bahdar asked sikhs not to take onions. This advice of Baba banda singh ji is written Banda singby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuotePlease read bansavalinama carefully.It does not mention that Banda singh was sent with three sikhs.It rather gives a dialogue between Baba Banda singh Bahadar and three sikhs namely Koer singh, Baaz singh and one other wherein they pose as merchants who hawk their goods and travel to Punjab.Banda singh asks them who were they and after some more questions and answers they reveal that they aby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
I forgot to respond to your claim about changing Fateh. If you read the complete letters of Baba Jis you will notice some Bahamn has tampered with them. For example, most of the letters are pro gurmat they mention to stay away from meat and intoxicants to always jaap gurmat naam, but then there is mention of not eating onions. Onions! What do onions have to do with Gurmat?Not eating onions isby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteRattan singh Bhanghu was not an ordinary person.He was grandson of Bhai mehtab singh who had beheaded Massa Ranghar inside Harmandir sahib. He had first hand knowledge of many incidents relating to Baba Banda singh bahadar. He is not the only one who wrote about misadventures of Baba Singh.Bhai Koer singh wrote Gurbilas patshahi 10 in 1751 AD. He does mention about Baba Banda singh bahaby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteTo state historical facts is not Ninda. Likewise Baba Binod Singh ji was descendant of Guru Angad dev ji.He was one of the panj piaras sent by Guru ji along Baba Banda singh. He remained with Baba Banda singh through thick and thin. When encircled in garhi of Gurdas Nangal, he advised Baba banda singh to make a pincer move and escape as sikhs under Baba banda singh had done when encirclby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteThe colour red which the Guru had forbidden, arrogantly he (Banda Bahadur) had his followers dress in this... They stopped the practise of wearing blue clothes and even on their heads wore red turbans.’ (Pracchin Panth Parkash, Part 1, Page 376) There are many things which Pracchin Panth Parkash says about Banda Singh Bahadur which are not true. Some of the claims are ludricous. The aboiby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Justin, you have already named some of major taboos in Sikhi. The only ones you leftout is having pre marital/extra marital relations, eating meat, and removing hair. Kara also reminds us of making an honest living so stealing and begging should be prohibited when wearing a kara. The best thing is to hang out with someone who has already taken Amrit and they can teach you the basics. Its very haby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Thanks. Researcher G.S. Singh has suggested that these writings came at a much later time than Sri Guru Arjan Dev Jis time.by Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Thanks When and by who were these writings inlcuded in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. Some people have suggested they were exerted after the Shaheedi of Sri Guru Tegh Bahadur Sahib Ji. But Gurbilas mentions how Bhai Bhano Jis bir included these writings during the time of Sri Guru Arjan Sahib Ji, but Guru Sahib told Bhai Bhano Ji not to add these additional writings which did not match Kartarpur Saby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Who was the mischievous person who wrote the prose of "Jit Dar Lakh Muhmmada" which was later added in Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji? The only place have found this writing is in " Bhai Bala Janam Sakhis". Professor Sahib Singh Ji has mentioned how some mischevious person had fabricated Saloks under the title of Pehli Paatshah in some of the janamsakhis, but he does not mention who wrote these salokhby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteProf Puran Singh did got inspired by Bhai Vir Singh Ji, to get attracted back to SIKHI, but his spirtual vision/experiences and mystic expressions run at a different plane than Bhai Vir Singh Ji, as we read the literature created by both. Professor Puran Singh respects Bhai Vir Singh Ji, it should not mean both agree everywhere. Moreover, the talk about ISHNAAN or other pretty small things,by Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Best recording ever!by Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Sorry I meant to say Bhai Vir Singh Ji was a role mode to Professor Puran Singh Ji. I accidentaly wrote Professor Sahib Singh JI haha.by Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
MB SIngh Veer Ji, we are surprised that Professor Sahib SIngh was in favor of cold-ishnaan. His role model Bhai VIr Singh Ji did not support the " extremes" of taking cold shower. He referred to it as Hatth Yog, and quoted the following pangti in claiming Gurmat does not support such so called extremes. ਇਕਿ ਪਾਲਾ ਕਕਰੁ ਭੰਨਿ ਸੀਤਲੁ ਜਲੁ ਹੇਂਵਹby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
The modern world is also starting to undestand how the friction of an iron bracelet, and the coming of hair with a wooden comb also lead to good blood circulation which leads to a strong and healthy heart ( puts the heart in Chardi Kala) . Giani Harbans Singh Ji has mentioned the science of the Panj Kakkars in his book "Amrit Philiosophy" . In regards to cold ishnaan in Punjab try "Ram Das Saby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
QuoteI heard a quote from singh recently. I forgot the original quote, but it meant that drinking water from a sirgum is like drinking alcohol. Do anyone know what is the original quote and where it is from ? I think you are mixing up the rehatnama of people who shave their head with people who smoke with . I think you are referring to this rehatnama which states drinking water from someoneby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
The above story of Bhai Rama Singh Ji reminds of these pangtia I came across last night ਬਿਖਮ ਘੋਰ ਪੰਥਿ ਚਾਲਣਾ ਪ੍ਰਾਣੀ ਰਵਿ ਸਸਿ ਤਹ ਨ ਪ੍ਰਵੇਸੰ ॥ ਮਾਇਆ ਮੋਹੁ ਤਬ ਬਿਸਰਿ ਗਇਆ ਜਾਂ ਤਜੀਅਲੇ ਸੰਸਾਰੰ ॥੩॥ ਆਜੁ ਮੇਰੈ ਮਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਗਟੁ ਭਇਆby Sukhdeep Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum