Veer Bijla Singh jeeo,
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Kulbir Singh Ji, you misunderstood my question. I asked for evidence that proves that Bhatt Tall did not exist not whether bani under his name does not appear in Guru Granth Sahib.
When I wrote that Bhatt Tal does not exist, I did not mean that he did not exist in this world but what I meant was that there is no Bhatt Tal whose Baani is in Siri Guru Granth Sahib jee. I don't question the existence of Bhatt Tal in this world. Thanks for the proof from Bhatt Vahees that Tal did exist.
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Prof. Sahib Singh’s logics sometimes are outlandish. Just because ‘Daas’ means servant doesn’t mean Daas Bhatt did not exist. Daas Bhatt was son of Tokha.
Professor Sahib Singh was a great scholar and a Vichaarvaan. He reached the conclusion that there is no Daas Bhatt, based on the number counting system of Bhatt Baani. This Daas, as previously stated, reached the same conclusion after doing independant research on this and a chart on the number count of Bhatts is posted in the previous post.
The first 13 Savaiyas of Savaye Mahalle Pehle ke belong to Bhatt Kal as is evident from the fact that the numbering count after that begins with 1. The next 16 Savaiyas are of Bhatt Nal who has also called himself Daas but since the number count does not change to new one, it has to be concluded that all 16 Savaiyaas are of Bhatt Nal and not of Daas and Nal separately. Another proof is that when the 16 Savaiyas of Nal are over, the last Pauri gives count of all Bhatts whose Baani has been written thus far:
ਦਾਸੁ ਬੇਨਤਿ ਕਹੈ ਨਾਮੁ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਲਹੈ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਗੁਰੁ ਗੁਰੂ ਜਪੁ ਮੰਨ ਰੇ ॥੪॥੧੬॥੨੯॥4 Above means that the Jholna style of Savaiyas written by Nal are 4 in count, his total Savaiyaas are 16 (out of which 8 are of Radd style) and Bhatt Kal's Savaiyaas are 13 in total, making the Grand Total of 29 Savaiyaas thus far.
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Kall was son of Bhikha while Kallsahaar was son of Chokha. They were two people but Prof. Sahib Singh and Teja Singh made them one without any evidence. It is similar to saying Bhagat Kabir Ji’s wife was not Loyee because the word means ‘world’.
The evidence according to the numbering system proves that Kal and Kal Sahaar are one and the same person, as far as Gurbani is concerned. They may be two persons in existence but in Gurbani, Kal and Kal Sahaar are one person. Please ponder upon the Savaiyas of Mahalla Dooja. All 10 Savaiyas belong to Bhatt Kal. In the first 4 Savaiyaas the name he uses is Kal-Sahaar (in the 5th pauri, no Bhatt-name is used) but in the last 5 he uses the name Kal alone. If Kal had been different from Kal Sahaar, then beginning with the 6th Pauri, the new count of Pauris would have started but this does not happen.
When the Baani of new Bhatt arrives, the count at the end of the Pauri changes. Let's look at an example from Savaiyaas of Mahalla Teeja to understand this:
The first 9 Savaiyaas are of Bhatt Kal and the 10th Pauri belongs to Bhatt Jaalap. Please note the the numbering at the end of Pauri 10:
ਸਕਯਥੁ ਸੁ ਸਿਰੁ ਜਾਲਪੁ ਭਣੈ ਜੁ ਸਿਰੁ ਨਿਵੈ ਗੁਰ ਅਮਰ ਨਿਤ ॥੧॥੧੦॥1 here means that this Pauri is written by Bhatt Jaalap and 10 means that the total count of Savaiyaas is 9 + 1 = 10. 9 is the count of Bhatt Kal. The total count of Savaiyaas of Bhatt Jaalap are 5. Now let's move on to end of Pauri 14 to see what the count says:
ਜਾਲਪਾ ਪਦਾਰਥ ਇਤੜੇ ਗੁਰ ਅਮਰਦਾਸਿ ਡਿਠੈ ਮਿਲਹਿ ॥੫॥੧੪॥Here 5 means that the total of Savaiyaas of Bhatt Jaalap are 5 and the total count of Savaiyaas thus far are 14. As we know 9 Savaiyaas are of Bhatt Kal. So the total is correctly 5 + 9 = 14. Now since the next Bhatt is Keerat, let's see what the first Savaiya of this Bhatt has at the end:
ਗੁਰ ਅਮਰਦਾਸ ਕੀਰਤੁ ਕਹੈ ਤ੍ਰਾਹਿ ਤ੍ਰਾਹਿ ਤੁਅ ਪਾ ਸਰਣ ॥੧॥੧੫॥Here 1 means that the Savaiyaas of Bhatt Keerat are 1 thus far and the total Savaiyaas are 15. How's it 15? 9 + 5 + 1 = 15. The total count of Savaiyaas of Bhatt Keerat are 4. Let's see what the count is at the end of 4 Pauris of Bhatt Keerat:
ਗੁਰ ਅਮਰਦਾਸ ਕਾਰਣ ਕਰਣ ਜਿਵ ਤੂ ਰਖਹਿ ਤਿਵ ਰਹਉ ॥੪॥੧੮॥Here 4 means that the total count of Bhatt Keerat's Savaiyaa are 4 and the grand total is 18. The breakdown of 18 is 9 + 5 + 4 = 18 (9 of Kal, 5 of Jaalap and 4 of Keerat). The next set of Savaiyaas belong to Bhikha. Let's see the count at the end of first Pauri of Bhikha:
ਗੁਰੁ ਮਿਲ੍ਯ੍ਯਿਉ ਸੋਇ ਭਿਖਾ ਕਹੈ ਸਹਜ ਰੰਗਿ ਦਰਸਨੁ ਦੀਅਉ ॥੧॥੧੯॥Here 1 means that the Savaiyaas of Bhikha are 1 so far and 19 means that the total count is 19. How 19? 9 + 5 + 4 + 1.
At the end of 20th pauri, the count is:
ਗੁਰੁ ਦਯਿ ਮਿਲਾਯਉ ਭਿਖਿਆ ਜਿਵ ਤੂ ਰਖਹਿ ਤਿਵ ਰਹਉ ॥੨॥੨੦॥2 here means the total of Bhikha's Savaiyaas are 2 and the Grand total is 20. The breakdown of 20 is: 9 of Kal, 5 of Jaalap, 4 of Keerat and 2 of Bhikha. The next Savaiyaa is of Sal. The count at the end of his Pauri is:
ਗੁਰ ਅਮਰਦਾਸ ਸਚੁ ਸਲ੍ਯ੍ਯ ਭਣਿ ਤੈ ਦਲੁ ਜਿਤਉ ਇਵ ਜੁਧੁ ਕਰਿ ॥੧॥੨੧॥Here 1 means that the total of Bhat Sal's Savaiyaas is 1. 21 is the grandtotal.
The Last Pauri is of Bhatt Bhal and the count at the end of this Pauri is as follows:
ਭਲੇ ਅਮਰਦਾਸ ਗੁਣ ਤੇਰੇ ਤੇਰੀ ਉਪਮਾ ਤੋਹਿ ਬਨਿ ਆਵੈ ॥੧॥੨੨॥Here 1 means that the total of Bhal Bhatt's Savaiyaas is 1. The Grand Total is 22. The breakdown of 22 is as follows: 9 of Kal, 5 of Jaalap, 4 of Keerat, 2 of Bhikha, 1 of Sal and 1 of Bhal - 9 + 5 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 1 = 22.
Now in the light of the above presentation from Savaiyaas of Mahalla 3, we can safely understand that Kal and Kal Sahaar are one and the same person, as far as Gurbani is concerned. In Savaiyas of Mahalla Dooja, if Kal had been different from Kal Sahaar, then at the end of 6th Pauri (when the name of Kal appears instead of Kal Sahaar) the total should have been = 1 || 6 and not 6 alone as it appears now:
ਹਰਿ ਪਰਸਿਓ ਕਲੁ ਸਮੁਲਵੈ ਜਨ ਦਰਸਨੁ ਲਹਣੇ ਭਯੌ ॥੬॥Based on the above Vichaar, Daas humbly submits that the count of Bhatts whose Baani is in Siri Guru Granth Sahib jee is 11 and not 17 or 14 as some claim.
Guru Sahib knows better.
Daas,
Kulbir Singh
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਬਚਨਕਮਾਵਣੇਸਚਾਏਹੁਵੀਚਾਰੁ॥
