WJKK WJKF Jaspreet jeeo, I be to differ beleive biggest is to do big in all 3 - mental , physical, from one's earnings- one without the other is useless -- all 3 are necessary without a shadow of a doubt. don't forget kirat karni , naam japnaa , vand shaknaa -- golden rules emphasis is on the 3. you still haven't answered my question: in the past 50 years enlighten us with what situationby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF Upkaar Singh Jeeo, many thanks for sharing Bhai Jeevan Singh Jee's example, beautiful indeed. Jaspreet Singh jee you mention "'ns' jio! Thank you for your kind comments ji! I can not express the level of gratitude towards you right now. This is why we need amazing, siaane, sincere, ChardiKala Singhs/Singhnis here such as you to educate us about Gurmat, so we can have clear unby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF Jaspreet Singh Jeeo, you're making a meal of the most simple hukham given for daswandh by Guru Mahraj into a very complex and creating negativity. first answer the question :: in the past 50 years enlighten us with what situations have been made worse by your implications of kirtani's taking/using daswand for kirtan/parchar ??? From what I have learned so far Daswandh isby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF Jaspreet jeeo it seems you are so narrow minded in your views of Khalsa rehit -- !!!by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF I agree with Sukhdeep singh and Jaspreet jee how do you know when you say "No one is really benefiting with the presence of so and so special Kirtani," -- do have some kind of dehhb dristi here - how can you know if the kaum or an individual is not benefitting from special kirtani??? are Kirtanis not part of the Khalsa panth??? stealing money from the golak -- funding a kirtanby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WHAT A JOKE-- question will remain, as divisions are hard ridged wedges in between jathebandis' as clearly seen in the posts above. on another note what do you think Guru sahib is thinking reading this thread??? It's a known fact we were given a simple system with the 4 bajjar kurehts and we have over the years made it a complex system of this and that according to so and so and so forth---by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
VJKK VJKF I disagree entirely where we just easily accept in reading Gurbani FAST.-- and my deepest feelings tell this is very very wrong - the reason because of the presence of protocol in Gurbani which is the || after each line-- what does that mean - STOP and REFLECT. How can rass be attained if one just wizzes fast in Gurbani, isn't one disobeying the protocol PRESENT when we SEE tby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF It get's worse this individual has also committed rape to a close member of the family who is realted to this idiot in sister form, this has been confirmed...what the hell do i do now?, I find it very hard to get this out of my head , and at present feel cannot help him at all and to let him be.by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF Many Thanks to all for their contribution on this thread, very much valued and will take on indeed.And of course the challange is on us the family indeed not as much for the young man whose gone astray. The suggestions by MB Singh, and other Gursikh mentioned here will be tried indeed, and as Leafy menitoed ardas is of paramount, we as a family need ardas too in order to have the sby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF Amritvela - jeeo someone who has broken amrit the way he has, I feel to give him such a book with Gurbani in it would be disastorous, please reread my post. There is not an 0.000001% of sikhe left in himby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF I have relative who at the age of 16 took amrit by the time he was 19 got involved with the wrong crowd- got into gangs, did robbery, ate meat, started smoking, does alchol now in prison serving a long sentance.. What do I do?? my gut feelings -- leave him alone cut off all communication - don't allow him back home after prison. my other side - stil love him but guide himby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF Will do , Many Thanks bhen jeeoby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
WJKK WJKF Please advise if one should retake amrit after having surgery on the knee?? What does our rehat maryada say about retakign amrit? is it only when you become patit ? Regards nsby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum