Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Do we know exactly from which year pad shed copies of SGGS started to appear?by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Je Ka Khalsa Waheguru je Ke Fateh Great inspirational thoughts and the issue to make concerted effort ONLY the most depressing is where on one hand we promote this thought process and on the other hand say to all those Gurmukhs who have had amrit with Pad Shed version of SGGS to retake Amrit--the most damaging is that thought process as it will cause division. Concerted effort witby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Kulbir Singh Jeeo , please listen to the youtube sent out particularly the first one --and the second.by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khals Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Kulbir Singh Jeeo and J Singh Jeeo, I feel the interpetation as below ਪਾਂਚ - refers to the five vikkars as Kulbir Singh has correctly mentioned i agree ਪਚੀਸ -- refers to the each of the five vices have 5 other elements each inside of us therefore 5*5=25 ਮੋਹ -- attachment ਮਦ - has three meanings alchol,hankaar,humaeby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa Waheguru Je Ke Fateh See you know you guys cannot understand one thing here and that is that "CHANGE IS A CONSTANT" in all circumstances. All is dynamic in front of us and has been so in the past- the circumstances under those sakki's were something else- the gangaa sagar is what it is - hence Mahraj's atul bachan's which are present in front of us where only it holdsby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Don't make me laugh veere - you know exactly where i am coming fromby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Completelg agree with Bhai Sukhdeep Singh jee, and so beautfil is Bhai Gurdas Jee's examples , how many Gursikh question each other on their mind? how is it today ? how was it during the day? how many Gursikhs question each other what was your goal towards Sikhe this vasakai and the last vasakai??by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Ask yourselves when was there unity in the panth?? I don't it ever was even in Guru Sahiban's times ?? "Unity can only be manifested by the binary.Unity itself and the idea of unity are already two" It's cuckoo land mentaility to think that there will be unity on this earth just based on rehat and i agree with Sher Singh the presentation of suchby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Wahiguru ji ka khalsa Wahiguru ji ki fateh Beautiful post and beautiful suggestions, thanks for sharing - I will endeavour the same - nature's laws are in Gurbani and Bhai Gurdas Jee varran- I work in and industry which has i quote " to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction" -- i see this every single day and pangtees from Gurbani only make you aware further.by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Wahegur Ji Ke Fateh!! Agreed - but the issue remains as there is no insitution that checks/verify's these babe- kathavachecks, granthi's before they speak on stage in India or abroad-- don;t mean to be negative but till Khalsa makes such an institution and bans these incorret parcharks- they will keep springinup from every unturned stone.by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!! Preetam Singh jeeo you meniton "The above is a small extract from Bhai Kaur Singh Jee's book, Khalsa Vidhaan. Bhai Sahib has outlined the reasons for lack of ekta in the panth. Until the above stated dhills are not gone from the panth, we can have no panthic ekta." The statement you make is incorrect- and an impossible scenerio to have ektaby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Indeed a great " if then scenerio "-- if it was taken forward at all times maybe we should do a poem of such if then scenerios-- plenty to think of " Je Sikh kintu prantu Gurbani tee naah keree - taa panth utheee bhoj naa baneee" " Jee Sikh kintu prantu Amrit tee naah keree -- taa panth vich Arit beej dall naa beneee" " Jee Sikh jaaat paatby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh So could one of the pyare Gursikhs on this forum clearly mention the history of degh - bogh ceremony - where did this actually start from i.e which Guru Sahiban and the authentic history on it please-- I'm only learning.by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh In which way is this thread bringing chardee kala to Sikhee??by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Thanks Sukhdeep Singh Jeeo I suppose a proper inventory of Gurdwara's is required i.e ones with Gurmat Maryada and ones against-- to bring about awareness in the community - probably for another thread though.by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ke fateh !! Beautiful suggestions and poems keep'em coming. I have one thing to add "Shabad Guru SURAT Dhun chela-- when doing nitnem imagine the sound within you of nitnem arising from your navel, your focus will be stronger and concentration way higher and your alertness even better, try and report back please.by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Sukhdeep Singh Jeeo, So yoo think the saki shouldn't be accepted - and what about the asthaans built in Punjab of where the historic events took place are they also wrong and they built them so many decades ago because puraatan sikh just felt like doing it??by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Jee Ka Khalsa Waheguru Jee Ke Fateh!!! I beleive a different angle needs to be taken with sangat in general for this parchar and that is to do with SIMPLICITY. First of all what needs to be established is If this diet is introdcued what and how does the body and mind respond? How does one feel with this diet - amrit dhari and non amrit dhari? How is it benefical in it's nutriby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh So here we go again -" INTERPETATION problems -- as always and another topic that's been routed through thousands of forums for the last 20 odd years... Instead of quoting sacred Bani why can't people just see the obvious i fail to understand unless someone can enlighten me. Sikhs with tied beards are not all bad there are some real gems and knoby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!! VISTA Jeeo -- I like when you quoted "The Khalsa has Gunns of a Sant: Sat, Santokh, Daya, Dharam, Nimarta. " - indeed these are the key skill for example when debating issues - we live in countries in the western world who have such a high skill of debate while keeping "Sat, Santokh, Nimarta. " -- even though they may not have the other guns suchby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!! Beautiful posts indeed -- if i could just add one. When Bhai Sahib Bhai Jeevan Singh Jee was around my house in the late 1980's after naam abyihaas- nitnem Bhai Sahib asked me to drop him at the local Gurdwara --..As I was about to drop I was thinking about all the other Gursikhs who had gone for kat nap or elswhere after nitnem and none had comeby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru ji ki fateh. Guru Hargobind Jee Mahraj test the Sikhs to recite Jap Ji with 100% focus -- and surely by that time there was more bani than JapJi Sahib that was around.-- essence was 100% focus- concentration on Gurbani. Thinking that there is Logic in Mahraaj's world which Bani to do when is totally absurd -- impossible -- we have Gurbani- do as much asby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Vaaheguroo jee kaa khalsaa Vaaheguroo jee kee fatehh..!! Dassandas- jeeo 100% spot on. Manvir Singh - important points indeed- and valaid questions.and these have been discussed in the AKJ forum - tapoban forum for the past 20 odd years and now a fresh start on this forum. If Gurmat Bibek's such as Sukhdeep Singh call all other sikhs _even amritdharis " MILGOBHANS " than Bhai Sukhdeep Singby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!!! Bhai Sukhdeep Singh Jee, Rehet -- is indeed important -- and the missing link in between all SIkhs seems to be INTERPETATION OF IT mainly due to what you say social and cultrual upbringing and edcuation. Your question were valid when you say so about bibek rehat and so are of any other Sikh-- and why shouldn't they be-- as without asking oneby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Thank you very much for your input Bhai Sukhdeep Singh Jeeo-- I enjoy prefer both styles as each has a benefit.And I agree and don't want to debate either - as the Ego thing is pretty ugly...by ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!! All of the above warriors fought for materialist power only without any thought for the poor. KHALSA -- nothing like saint and spiritual warrior for the common good for all - not hungry for materialistic power--Bhai Bagel Singh who invaded Delhi 14 times could've taken Delhi for RAAJ but no -- only to build Gurdwaras that are there today for reveby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Bhai Sukhdeep Singh Jee- rest assured I in no way have mentioned or mean to mention BANA should not be worn or Khalsa should not obey rehit. EGO --in kirtan, nitnem- paathj etc.etc question do you think Raag kirtan as opposed to AKJ style - which one is done more ego--i.e which one suppoRt ego support devices and which doesn't ?? not going offby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh Bha Sukhdeep Singh Jeeo, by mentioning the quote I wasn't in any form challenging the wearing of blue-- but when discussing or debating what to wear we have to consider other parmaans on clothing and looks too for .eg. here are some more Bhai Gurdaas Jee Quotes: guramukh varan avaran hoe ra(n)g sura(n)g tha(n)bol parachai|| Gurmukhs go beyond tby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru ji ka khalsa Waheguru ji ki fateh. SGGS Jee on color --not against the thread in any way - just thought i mention it. ਜਿਉ ਉਬਲੀ ਮਜੀਠੈ ਰੰਗੁ ਗਹਗਹਾ ਤਿਉ ਸਚੇ ਨੋ ਜੀਉ ਦੇਇ ॥ ਰੰਗਿ ਚਲੂਲੈ ਅਤਿ ਰਤੀ ਸਚੇ ਸਿਉ ਲਗਾ ਨੇਹੁ ॥ Ji▫o ublī majīṯẖai rang gahgahā ṯiby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh!!1 HS1NGH jeeo -- there are just as many chadee kala bibia out there and always has been in the past and in future-- why? -- the personalities you meniton, all must have had great mothers with immense gupt kamai for them to have born such personalities you mention above.Their mention is of the least that is the trouble -- i personally feel great reseby ns - Gurmat Discussion Forum