Amritvela Wrote:
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> Veer Sukhdeep Singh jio,
>
> There are countless examples of Ranglay Sajjans
> working under the British government. Whilst Bhai
> sahib Randhir Singh ji was imprisoned by the
> British, Bau Mal Singh ji worked under the British
> government. There are countless Ranglay Sajjans
> that worked under the British rule, gursikhs such
> as; Bau Mal Singh ji, Hira Harbachan Singh ji,
> Baba Maghar Singh ji and countless others. The
> British sarkaar ruined India and Sikh Raj but
> gursikhs still worked under these governments.
>
> At the same time, working for a government doesn't
> make you a non-sikh. Even today, countless
> gursikhs work under the Anti Sikh government of
> India and countless work under other such non-sikh
> governments. Even in countries in the West,
> Canada, USA and UK, we work under these non-sikh
> governments.
>
> For me and i'm sure for alot of us, the fact that
> Bhai sahib Randhir Singh ji quotes this sakhi is
> enough to believe its true. Who knows better than
> Bhai sahib Randhir Singh ji?
>
> Bhulla khimma karnia ji.
Veer Ji im not saying its wrong to work for the Government. I myself work for a government institution, but if the Government trys to force their religious beliefs on me or others then I would resign tomorrow .There are many democratic secular governments in the West that govern with fairness, equality , and justice. These governments have a separation between church and state meaning they do not function on the basis of a particular Dharam, unlike the Turks who tried to enforce ISlamic law on all religious minorities.
In Guru Sahibs 52 commandments Guru Sahib tells his Khalsa to govern independently and not to give authority to the works of Governments belonging to other faiths.Guru Sahib tells us to recognize fully (with great faith) the administration is a dying disease.
੨੭. ਸੁਤੰਤਰ ਵਿਚਰਨਾ। ਰਾਜ ਕਾਜ ਦਿਆਂ ਕਮਾਂ ਉਤੇ ਦੂਸਰੇ ਮਤਾਂ ਲੋਕਾਂ ਨੂੰ ਅਧਿਕਾਰ ਨਹੀਂ ਦੇਣਾ। ਤੁਰਕ ਸੁ ਜਾਨਹਿ ਰੋਗ ਸਮਾਨ
Guru Sahib is telling the tyrannical rule of the Turks will come to an end. Surely the Singhs had faith in Guru Sahibs bachan at Nandar, so why would any Gurmukh work for the Mughals knowing their rule will end due to their oppression?
These Mughals were complete savages they tried to completely destroy India and kill many people starting with the most influential people of India ( the Bahamans). Guru Sahib has said these oppressive people need to be dealt with sufficiently. Guru Sahib instructs us to kill the fanatical Turk.
ਗੋ ਗ੍ਰਹਮਨ ਕੀ ਰਖਿਆ ਕਰੈ। ਤੁਰਕਨ ਸੋਂ ਅਤਿ ਹਠ ਕਰਿ ਮਰੈ।
Bhai Desa SIngh Ji
GUru Sahib has also stated any Gursikh who treats his home as a headquater for the Turks is a false Sikh.
ਜੋ ਸਿਖ ਆਪਣੇ ਘਰ ਦੇ ਕਮ ਵਿਚ ਤੁਰਕ ਮੁਖਤਿਆਰ ਕਰੇ, ਸੋ ਤਨਖਾਹੀਆ( Bhai Chaupa Singh REhatnama)
THis is an indication to not work for the Mughals. In Bhai Chaups Singhs Rehanama there is also mention to not accept the friendship of a Turk ( Mughal) is a false Sikh.
ਤੁਰਕ ਦੀ ਯਾਰ੍ਹ੍ਵੀ ਮਨਾਏ, ਸੋ ਤਨਖਾਹੀਆ।
Bhai Desa Singh Ji says not to trust a Mughal ( Turk)
ਤੁਰਕਨ ਪਰ ਬਿਸਵਾਸ ਨ ਕਰੀਏ
In Bhai nand lal Jis rehatnama Guru Sahib has mentioned the Khalsa keep the maleysh ( Mughal) far. So why would a Gurmukh keep the close company of the maleysh?
ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੋਇ ਨਾਮ ਜਪ ਕਰੈ। ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੋਇ ਮਲੇਛ ਪਰ ਚੜੈ।
Bhai Daya Singh Ji was a saint warrior. He did much Gurmat Parachar and spread the Khalsa Administration far and wide. In Bhai Daya Singh Ji rehatnama , Guru Sahib instructs Khalsa is he whom works for the Panth and offers their mind, wealth, and body to the panth.
ਧਰਮ ਕਿਰਤ ਪਾਇ, ਖਾਲਸਾ ਸੋ ਜਿਨ ਤਨ, ਮਨ, ਧਨ ਗੁਰੂ ਅਕਾਲ ਪੁਰਖ ਕੋ ਸੌਪਿਆ ਹੈ
In addition BHai Sahib notes anyone who takes Amrit and then bows ( submits) at the door ( adminsitration/authority) of a Turk is a false Sikh. IS there any different then submitting or working for the Turk administration.
ਖੰਡੇ ਕਾ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਛਕਿ ਤੁਰਕ ਦੁਆਰੇ ਸੀਸ ਨਿਵਾਵੈ, ਸੋ ਤਨਖਾਹੀਆ
Bhai Daya Singh Ji also notes anybody who keeps the sangat of the Turk will go to hell. How can one work for the administration without having their company?
ਤੁਰਕੋਂ ਕਿ ਸੰਗਤ ਕਰੈ ਓੁਸ ਕੁਸੰਗਤ ਮੈਂ ਨ ਮੇਲ ਕਰੇ, ਅੰਤ ਕੋ ਵਹਿ ਨਰਕ ਮੈਂ ਜਾਇਗਾ
What Im saying it would be wrong to
work for the Mughals who not only slandered Guru Sahib, but also attempted to kill Guru Sahib many times.
ਸੁਲਹੀ ਤੇ ਨਾਰਾਇਣ ਰਾਖੁ ॥ਸੁਲਹੀ ਕਾ ਹਾਥੁ ਕਹੀ ਨ ਪਹੁਚੈ ਸੁਲਹੀ ਹੋਇ ਮੂਆ ਨਾਪਾਕੁ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
THe life of such people are cursed why would a Gurmukh work for such people after taking Amrit?
Isnt part of our GUrmat Bibek to keep distance from bad company? So why would a Gurmukh keep the company of a Guru-Nindak?
ਸੰਗਿ ਕੁਸੰਗੀ ਬੈਸਤੇ ਤਬ ਪੂਛੈ ਧਰਮ ਰਾਇ ॥੨੧੧॥
When people sit in evil company, the Righteous Judge of Dharma calls them to account. ||211||
_ Sri Guru Arjan Sahib Ji.
Any story that does not line up with Gurmat-Rehat is fabricated.
- sorry If I have offended anybody