Now lets talk about research from Gurubani, as we only believe in Gurbani :ਨਦੀਆ ਹੋਵਹਿ ਧੇਣਵਾ ਸੁੰਮ ਹੋਵਹਿ ਦੁਧੁ ਘੀਉ ॥
If the rivers became cows, giving milk, and the spring water became milk and ghee;
Milk and Ghee mentioned together means, Gurbani talks about Ghee which of course is obtained from Milk since ages.
ਸਗਲ ਬਨਸਪਤਿ ਮਹਿ ਬੈਸੰਤਰੁ ਸਗਲ ਦੂਧ ਮਹਿ ਘੀਆ ॥
Fire is contained in all firewood, and butter is contained in all milk.
Gurbani prooves clearly that Ghee is obtained from milk. Can you quote that Ghee can be taken from plants? Quote from Gurbani.
Here comes another :ਘ੍ਰਿਤ ਕਾਰਨ ਦਧਿ ਮਥੈ ਸਇਆਨ ॥
For the sake of ghee, wise people churn milk.
Guru Sahib says that milk is churned to obtain ghee, any doubt? Does Guru Sahib anywhere mention Ghee from plants? Quote then.
How Ghee makes food and Degh Amrit when it is poured :
ਅੰਨੁ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਪਾਣੀ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਬੈਸੰਤਰੁ ਦੇਵਤਾ ਲੂਣੁ ਪੰਜਵਾ ਪਾਇਆ ਘਿਰਤੁ ॥
The corn is sacred, the water is sacred; the fire and salt are sacred as well; when the fifth thing, the ghee, is added,
ਤਾ ਹੋਆ ਪਾਕੁ ਪਵਿਤੁ ॥
Then the food becomes pure and sanctified.
Why does food become pure adding Ghee, why Guru Sahib mentions this again and again that Ghee is paak, pavittar. It makes food pure
ਕਬਹੂ ਖੀਰਿ ਖਾਡ ਘੀਉ ਨ ਭਾਵੈ ॥
Sometimes, people do not appreciate milk, sugar and ghee.
Look Kabir jee also asking for Ghee ike Dhanna jee :ਦੁਇ ਸੇਰ ਮਾਂਗਉ ਚੂਨਾ ॥
I ask for two kilos of flour,
ਪਾਉ ਘੀਉ ਸੰਗਿ ਲੂਨਾ ॥
And half a pound of ghee, and salt.
ਅਧ ਸੇਰੁ ਮਾਂਗਉ ਦਾਲੇ ॥
I ask for a pound of beans,
Why Ghee was so important? and that too half pound, thats a lot!! He could have skipped it, its because its important part of diet for Bhagti. One needs energy to do lound naam abhyaas, and read a lot of Gurbaani.
Now let come back again at BHagaat Dhanna jee's ask :
ਦਾਲਿ ਸੀਧਾ ਮਾਗਉ ਘੀਉ ॥
Lentils, flour and ghee - these things, I beg of You.
ਹਮਰਾ ਖੁਸੀ ਕਰੈ ਨਿਤ ਜੀਉ ॥
My mind shall ever be pleased.
ਪਨ੍ਹ੍ਹੀਆ ਛਾਦਨੁ ਨੀਕਾ ॥
Shoes, fine clothes,
ਅਨਾਜੁ ਮਗਉ ਸਤ ਸੀ ਕਾ ॥੧॥
And grain of seven kinds - I beg of You. ||1||
ਗਊ ਭੈਸ ਮਗਉ ਲਾਵੇਰੀ ॥
A milk cow, and a water buffalo, I beg of You,
ਇਕ ਤਾਜਨਿ ਤੁਰੀ ਚੰਗੇਰੀ ॥
And a fine Turkestani horse.
First he asks for flour and Ghee as ingredients of food, he begs for it. Then he asks for source of both of these, floor--> Anaaj, Ghee--> Cow. Why, he just goes in further detail and asks for more..... Whats the problem in that? its like opening more and asking big things as we start demanding from simple materials.
He asks for horse, but that's a transport, its nothing to do with food. modes of transport have nothing to do with reaching waheguru. Bhut Diet has!!! common sense, bibek budhi. You should know that learning Horse Riding is part of hukams of Guru Sahib! He didnt know that it will be outdated?
ਸਦ਼ਇਨ ਕਟੋਰੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਭਰੀ ॥
Suoein Kattoree Anmrith Bharee ||
Taking the golden cup, Naam Dayv filled it with the ambrosial milk,
Now your comment on this, yes Namdev ji can have access to Gold. Why not, how do you know that he didnt have? A naam Abhyaasi can have access to anything, depending upon awastha, even to Gold, diamonds. If Gurbani says that he used golden cup, then he did. Why you have problem with that? Yes Gold is valuable, if it is being used to express love to Waheguru instead of decorating oneself or treating it as one's wealth. Sikh does his best for his Guru, Waheguru. Guru Gobind Singh jee was not against Gold, he used to get gifts having Gold Embroidery etc....but he was Guru. We can possess Gold if we want to use it for Khalsa Karaj, or for chardi kala of khalsa.
The shabad clearly says milk is Amrit. No how can milk be taken compassionately? it belongs to the calf, calf is separated and then milk is taken. Now you will say its compassionate compared to today, but well did God not know that calf was separated to get milk from cow? Because in olden times cow gave that much milk as needed for calf. How can God take such milk? Which means God accepted milk which had suffering. Because humans are allowed to take milk of animals, which you vegans are against. This Shabad prooves it. Now how much compassion is there, it changed with time. I am sure God will take milk even today, if we offer in Sarbloh, irrespective of the fact that it came from discriminated cow. It just depends who is offering the milk.
Gurbaani clearly says that Ghee is pavittar and it makes food pavitter when used. No one ensured how wheat or sugar (which mmostly people bought from shop even in old times) have been produced, did they arrive on plate from field of farmer who has killed thousand of people for his business needs, how paapi is that farmer, no one knows. Same applies to milk as ingredient.
When i told you that speices are killed in farming, the wheat you have on plate has sufferings, then you didnt get the point, you just ignored it, and started explaining that dairy farming causes more land being used in agriculture. But you didnt get the main point. It means you dont want to listen, it has been proved that food has suffering always. No one can get rid of it.
WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN THIS BODY TO END OUR SUFFERING, but if we start bothering about suffering of beings around the world, life wasted. We cannot end their suffering because world is run by Waheguru. Its foolishness and ego to think about bringing change in world until we have reached the awastha when we can serve Waheguru or Waheguru itself takes sewa from us. We can change world only if Singhs bring Khalsa Raaj, thats the only way of doing good to human beings and other beings. But for that we need to do a lot of bhagti , instead of studying veganisms or other isms created by manmukhs, we need to focus on primary Goal which is keeping rehit and reaching waheguru. When considerable Group of such singhs will exist in this world, those days will come. So Singh should aim to be one of them, instead of wasting time in such trivial issues of world.
Who says in old times, suffering was not there, if not to animals, humans were suffering so much. Auranghzeb, Babar etc, they were doing so much suffering, but Guru Sahib acted only when right time came, most of the time Guru Sahib remained Dormant, spread Sikhi, gave naam to people instead of ending poverty or outspread diseases. And that too was done to selective people, rest of the people kept on suffering because of their karma, few lucky ones were liberated, again because of their good karma of previous lives.
Same applies today, Khalsa needs to become divine with Bhagtti, all other sufferings of beings, which are to be ended and which not, and when are to be ended, Waheguru knows. We should only do one thing, be compassionate to all beings when we deal with them (of course direct dealing). But if others are doing paap, we cannot stop them, or we cannot stop eating needed diet because of that. But we just need to follow rehit, that way minimal bad karms will be created, which always remain.
So Ghee is important, proven, Gurbani says iclearly that it makes food Amrit. And Gurbani also says that its obtained from milk. That is why Bhagats demand Ghee. Now what is your point? Talk about this now. Nothing can replace it, Guru Sahib specifically introduced it, while there have been so many rich foods around, but he chose Ghee for degh, no other oil. You cannot ignore that. So its puratan maryada, which many singhs folowed and reached waheguru, we should do the same.