ms514 Wrote:
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> VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH
>
> "How many centuries do you think we need before
> ALL Sikhs on the globe agree to every single
> thing?"
>
>
>
> Maybe we have to realize that we don't have to. I
> refer to the Jews - they decided in their quest
> for an independent homeland that there were going
> to be differences. But they agreed that what they
> needed was a unity amongst the community to
> achieve their goal. There must come a point that
> every Sikh must identify himself/herself as a Sikh
> and as a community, decide to pursue a common goal
> of an independent land for the Sikhs, above their
> Jathebandi affiliations and partiular practices.
> Without independence, there is no way any foreign
> nation would tolerate any platform for the Sikhs
> to be able to come together and reconcile their
> (rather small in my views) differences. Why would
> they? The very faith is designed to uplift the
> common man, something that any elite ruling class
> would never want. We are a threat to the ruling
> regime not as a separate faith, but because it
> specifically challenges the ruling class Brahmin
> regime that Sikhism is dead set against. Brahmins
> have, through Manu Simritis and Indian
> subcontinent culture, suppressed all as a people
> internally except the Sikhs. The Sikh continues
> to be trouble to them and the reason resources are
> diverted to suppress Sikhs is to they do not lose
> their ruling monopoly over the Indian people.
>
> Given that the homeland would almost have to be in
> the current state of Punjab (sentimental and
> spiritual attachment to the founding land of the
> faith that the Sikh populace - local and diaspora
> would be attached to and have a vested interest to
> declare as their homeland - the history, the very
> roots are there), it would require that somehow,
> the needs of the Panth for an independent homeland
> be paramount above all else for every Sikh. Until
> all the Jathebandis (especially the leadership,
> which must squash internal dissension) work with
> each other, recognize the inherent (minor)
> differences that the other has and respects them
> (not agrees with them, respects them) and
> considers them a fellow Sikh, and focus all of the
> Sikhs who associate themselves with that
> Jathebandi to the common goal, nothing will be
> done.
>
> This is what the Jews did. They did not open
> Maryada issues and made a policy that stated that
> if you could prove your Jewish ancestry, you would
> be granted citizenship to Israel. Many types of
> Jews flooded Isreal under this policy. Now, many
> many years after the establishment of Israel, they
> are working through the Maryada issues - orthodox
> vs. Hasidic is a thing, where there are movements
> within the country to move towards a stricter
> interpretation of Judaism, with resistance from
> more liberal Jews to leave the status quo. BUT,
> they are able to do this WITHIN their own borders.
>
>
> What we fail to realize as a Panth is that we need
> a home desperately. We squabble and fight and
> allow ourselves to be distracted and led by
> self-serving leaders. Taking a page from Chinese
> history (thanks college electives!), until the
> very identity of each Chinese citizen was not
> awakened to the dire need for independence from
> the British, China was controlled by the proxy
> Manchurian puppet regime as controlled by the
> British. It was only when every common citizen
> realized the need (and individuals took upon the
> initiative to establish and glorify the unique
> Chinese identity) and was willing to die for the
> cause that the nation was able to shake off the
> British. Same as Punjab, China was flooded with
> oipium, alcohol and tobacco to suppress them and
> make them controllable. Sikhs are also being
> attacked spiritually and their history targeted by
> the parchar that they are Hindus - this is a
> suppression tactic so the common Sikh does not
> realize his/her true identity as a sovereign
> individual destined to be free.
>
> Alcohol/drugs are used as a means of suppression,
> sellout Uncle Tom leaders are used as a means of
> suppression and if all fails, force is used to
> cull the Sikhs. Until the unified voice of the
> Sikh Panth does not cry out for independence and
> dedicates its collective mind, body and soul to
> Gurbani, Gurmat, understanding its unique identity
> and its presence in this world as a nation worthy
> of a homeland where it can actually blossom and
> progress as a faith, the same status quo will
> continue.
>
> The alternative is that every Sikh must become a
> true Sikh, a true reflection of Guru Sahib - the
> very presence of such Sikhs will do the parchar
> itself and many would flock to the faith from the
> local population. Frankly, anything is possible
> and all will happen with Guru Sahib's Kirpa, but
> with the current state being as it is - supposed
> Amritdharis leading the Panth and themselves
> committing kurehits and selling out the Panth, it
> would be very hard for a Sikh to be inspired to
> these levels. The clean shaven Punjabi from Sikh
> families are still like an explosive powder keg -
> any inspiration and they will emerge as hardcore
> Sikhs, and such was seen during the movement.
> Such youth still exist today, but there is a
> concerted effort to prevent any good Gursikh from
> drawing another breath. If such inspiration was
> to become Panthic wide (and Guru Sahib is the doer
> of all), there could be an inspirational movement
> within the Sikh faith that inspires all around
> them and the Sikhs would be handed whatever they
> desire - rather than fighting for a homeland, the
> homeland would be given to them on a silver
> platter. I think you and I know that Gurprasad is
> everything, but this is not a scenario with
> statistics in its favor. For this to occur, Sikhs
> would have to, as a Panth, be constituted of
> Bhagat Pooran Singhs, Sant Jarnail Singhs, Bhai
> Sahib Bhai Randheer Singhs, Shaheed Anokh Singh
> Babbars, Mata Bhag Kaurs. May Guru Sahib bless us
> with such, but otherwise, as Guru Sahib has said,
> without Raaj, Dharam does not progress.
>
> So my dear brother, it is not that we have to
> agree on every single thing. We need to agree on
> the one thing: We are Sikhs of the Guru and we
> are in need for a place to call our own. Forget
> all of the other differences and technical
> details. Work towards the common goal and when
> there is an independent homeland for the Sikhs,
> the Panth can deal with these differences with the
> one authorized institution by Guru Sahib - Punj
> Pyare selected from the Sangat to whom these
> matters can be presented for resolution. Faith in
> Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh allowed weighty decisions
> to be resolved with parchian being placed in
> Harmandir Sahib's sarovar - last (only) parchi
> standing was the Almighty's will for the Panth.
> It is our lack of committment and faith to our own
> common ground of Sikhi that is preventing
> progress.
>
> Alas, this is all Guru Sahib's Hukam and maybe the
> Sikh Panth will learn from this and prosper ever
> more from the hard lessons of today...
I am not going to reply to this, rather save/print/share it to be read by me and as many as possible on a daily basis. I am speechless!
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਬਚਨਕਮਾਵਣੇਸਚਾਏਹੁਵੀਚਾਰੁ॥
The Sikh Rehat Maryada states that women can be in the Punj Pyare. It has its reasons.
