Sometimes I feel raags can have a profound effect on your emotional attachment and your heartfelt emotions related to certain pankthiyaa in gurbaani
Raag isn't a mandatory tool.. but it is available for people that need it to get attached to gurbaani..
Sometimes raags can be quite helpful in becoming attached
Like for instance.. from the above post raag basant I don't think necessarily denotes happiness
that is inaccurate. raag basant makes you strong.. it is suppose to give your mind strength... because the shabad thum saach dhiyaavo mugad mana... is encouraging.. more like scolding your mind... to jap naam.. and the certain sur that are attached to that.. really do make your mind want to jap naam...
here is a more detailed account of raags
Raag Maajh ~ Ang 94-150. •A cultural raag.
•Inspires longing for the Beloved Divine.
•Time of day to sing is 3 pm to 6 pm.
•Rainy season Warkha mid July up to mid September.
3.Raag Gaourree ~ Ang 141-346. •An important raag with 12 sub variations.
•Inspires contemplation.
•Time of day to sing is 3 pm to 6 pm.
•Fall season Sisar mid November up to mid January.
4.Raag Asa ~ Ang 347-488. •A rare raag.
•Inspires spiritual devotion in the cool mystic hours before dawn.
•Time of day to sing is 3 am to 6 am.
•Winter season Him mid January up to mid March.
5.Raag Gujree ~ Ang 489-536. •An old time raag.
•Inspires deep soulful and heartfelt thought.
•Time of day to sing is 9 am to 12 noon.
•Rainy season Warkha mid July up to mid September.
6.Raag Daev Gandharee ~ Ang 527-536. •An ancient raag.
•Inspires fervent appeal.
•Time of day to sing is 6 am to 9 am.
•Fall season Sisar mid November up to mid January.
7.Raag Bihagra ~ Ang 537-556. •A contemporary raag.
•Inspires spiritual serenity.
•Time of day to sing is 9 pm to 12 midnight.
•Winter season Him mid January up to mid March.
8.Raag Vadhans ~ Ang 557-594. •A rare raag.
•Inspires gentle sensitivity.
•Time of day to sing is 12 noon to 3 pm.
•Fall season Sisar mid November up to mid January.
9.Raag Sorath ~ Ang 595-659. •A pleasant raag.
•Inspires enlightened cheer.
•Time of day to sing is 9 pm to 12 midnight.
•Autumn season Sarad mid September up to mid November.
10.Raag Dhanasaree ~ Ang 660-695. •A cheery raag.
•Inspires joyful adoration.
•Time of day to sing is 12 noon to 3 pm.
•Fall season Sisar mid November up to mid January.
11.Raag Jaitsree ~ Ang 696-710. •An ancient raag.
•Inspires meditative surrender to the mystery of the Divine.
•Time of day to sing is 6 pm to 9 pm.
•Fall season Sisar mid November up to mid January.
12.Raag Todee ~ Ang 711-718. •A foremost raag.
•Inspires adoring praise.
•Time of day to sing is 9 am to 12 noon.
•Fall season Sisar mid November up to mid January.
13.Raag Bairaree ~ Ang 719-720. •A regional raag.
•Inspires gentle compassion.
•Time of day to sing is 6 pm to 9 pm.
•Autumn season Sarad mid September up to mid November.
14.Raag Tilang ~ Ang 721-727. •A favored Raag.
•Inspires quiet pleasure.
•Time of day to sing is 3 pm to 6 pm.
•Rainy season Warkha mid July up to mid September.
15.Raag Soohee ~ Ang 728-794. •A favored morning raag.
•Inspires happy fulfillment.
•Time of day to sing is 9 am to noon.
•Warm spring season Basant mid March up to mid May.
16.Raag Bilaval ~ Ang 795-858. •A basic raag.
•Inspires devotional tranquility.
•Time of day to sing is 9 am to 12 noon.
•Warm spring season Basant mid March up to mid May.
17.Raag Gond ~ Ang 859-875. •A regional raag.
•Inspires solemn contemplation.
•Time of day to sing is 9 am to 12 noon.
•Winter season Him mid January up to mid March.
18.Raag Ramkalee ~ Ang 876-974. •A raag of foremost importance.
•Inspires elevated thinking.
•Time of day to sing is sunrise 6 am to 9 am.
•Warm spring season Basant mid March up to mid May.
19.Raag Nat Narayan ~ Ang 975-983. •A stirring raag.
•Inspires a crusading spirit.
•Time of day to sing is 9 pm to 12 midnight.
•Rainy season Warkha mid July up to mid September.
20.Raag Malee Goura ~ Ang 984-988. •An antiquated raag.
•Inspires joyful content.
•Time of day to sing is 6 pm to 9 pm.
•Autumn season Sarad mid September up to mid November.
21.Raag Maroo ~ Ang 989-1106. •Inspires rapture.
•Time of day is to sing 12 noon to 3 pm.
•Fall season Sisar mid November up to mid January.
22.Raag Tukharee ~ Ang 1107-1117. •A popular raag of old.
•Inspires gratitude.
•Time of day to sing is 3 pm to 6 pm.
•Autumn season Sarad mid September up to mid November.
23.Raag Kaedara ~ Ang 1118-1124. •An ancient healing raag.
•Inspires plaintive longing for the Divine.
•Time of day to sing is 6 pm to 9 pm.
•Summer season Garikhame mid May up to mid July.
24.Raag Bhairou ~ Ang 1125-1167. •A significant ancient raag.
•Inspires awe.
•Time of day to sing is sunrise 6 am to 9 am.
•Autumn season Sarad mid September up to mid November.
25.Raag Basant ~ Ang 1168-1196. •A very ancient raag.
•Inspires ecstatic serenity.
•Sing at any time of day or 6 pm to 9 pm.
•Warm spring season Basant mid March up to mid May.
26.Raag Sarang ~ Ang 1197-1253. •An old important raag.
•Inspires calming peace.
•Time of day to sing is 9 am to 12 noon.
•Rainy season Warkha mid July up to mid September.
27.Raag Malaar ~ Ang 1254-1293. •A favored raag of old.
•Inspires joyous thanks.
•Sing any time but particularly 9 pm to 12 midnight.
•Rainy season Warkha mid July up to mid September.
28.Raag Kaanrraa ~ Ang 1294-1318. •An olden day raag still popular.
•Inspires majestic serenity.
•Time of day to sing is 9 pm to 12 midnight.
•Summer season Garikhame mid May up to mid July.
29.Raag Kaliaan ~ Ang 1319-1326. •A complex raag.
•Inspires receptive reliance on Divine prosperity.
•Time of day to sing is 6 pm to 9 pm.
•Rainy season Warkha mid July up to mid September.
30.Raag Parbhatee ~ Ang 1327-1351. •A prevalent raag.
•Inspires dignity and calm.
•Time of day to sing is 6 am to 9 am.
•Warm spring season Basant mid March up to mid May.
31.Raag Jai Javantee ~ Ang 1352-1359. •A important raag of riveting magnificence.
•Inspires spiritual longing.
•Time of day to sing is 9 pm to 12 midnight.
•Summer season Garikhame mid May up to mid July
For some people.. raags can be a magnificent tool.. and can truly effect the mind..
I think that although raag isn't the best way to attract the masses into gursikhee
however.. it is definitely worth studying... it is profound..
MY POINT is : when we ignore things like raags... we are losing out on a severely important tool.. that can help us be more successful in our kanyo thiki valo niki path we have taken...
Our guru sahibs.. gave us this raag... to HELP US.. So if we have a bhandaar.. of.. sur....
I mean if we have prem for vaheguru then we will study raag.... and discover its beauty and its way entrancing the mind.. it has a way of mesmerizing the mind...
we cant just look at the meanings on google.com
we should find time to take classes or study books. .because as much as santhiyaa of gurbaani...
RAAG IS IMPORTANT.. I PROMISE..
And I am not saying that you don't have prem if you don't study raag... I am saying that we should just study raags... because there are so amazing.. and I have learned to love them soo much.. and they have helped me so much in my harsh times..
whenever I have been profoundly troubled.. and I needed to escape from the present reality... raag has always been best friend..
whenever in fear.. I turn on keertan in raag basant.. I am taken to a different world... emotionally..
and like we talk about guru granth sahib jee...
and say we complain about not having enough people tell us about guru sahib.. why not just read it
SUR ARE important.. and I am a firm believer in sur.. and raag and how helpful it is
Many times I have seen from my past experiences.. that people do not know how to integrate prem with raag.. when I go to people that just focus on raag without prem... it makes the kirtan terrible.
so with raag has to be a longing for finding vaheguru
A lot of times I find myself jumping from akj kirtan to raag kirtan
because there is too much movie interference in akj kirtan from SOME KIRTANIYAA.. .it just takes away from the gurbaani from me.. sometimes raag takes away from the gurbaani from
But there is no black or white answer
gurbaani has come from sachkhand.. so shouldn't we give as much satkar to gurbaani by using the raags assigned.. we put guru sahib on a pedestal.. and use beautiful ramalae to dress up our guru sahib.. so why cant we use beautiful raags proscribed by our gurus to dress up gurbaani when presenting it to the world......
a lot of the times... when you use raag you don't even have to understand the meaning of the shabad word for word to know what the shabad means..
music is a universal language.. because music is comprised of emotions.. it touches your heart. to use raag.. when I hear filmy tunes.. my mind cannot concentrate as much..
there is a lot of distraction from the filmy tunes... like my mind goes to lalala land.. but every time.. .there has been no acception.. that raags have truly given me an intuitive understanding of guru sahibs emotions that he is trying to convey at times of writing gurbaani..
It drives me insane.. that we are just concentrating on gurbaani and not on sur... because sur : is emotion.. and guru sahib is nothing but emotion..
AND PREM IS AN EMOTION.. and raags convey that emotions.. and
yes to a certain extent that prem is possible without raags.... but that same prem... that with guru sahib conveyed us the raags cannot be presented
and people will say.. that the aaaaaaahhhing of raags is beadbi.. it is not beadbi.. it is beautifying the raags.. it is not my fault that they cannot understand the beauty of the ahhhahhahha..... these aahahahah are not easy to do..so rather than being close minded and saying that this isn't gurbaani.. we should OPEN OUR MINDS. to the ahahhaaas
I have learned raag.. and I learned taanas.. and they take hours and hours of practice. to get them down..
they are so difficult to get down
and they attach your mind to the gurbaani.. to your origins.
Let us put gurbaani on pedestals and use raags within our kirtan.. let us study them.. like we study our history.. and our pasts..
Ahahhhaaas.. are I know they are enhancing the raags.. and decorating the raags.. it is like the icing we use on a cake.. .we decorate it. .and eadd extra squiglies to make the cake pretty..
Shouldn't gurbaani be made beautiful..
These are words coming from sachkhand.... .so the surs should be coming from sachkhand. too right? because the surs are from sachkhand.. because infront of every shabad there is a raag_____ assigned to it..
Raagtilang
tho darsan ki karo samayae
Yes there is so much emotion in that line.. so much depth of emotion. .nd poetry that went into that creation.. why why why degrade it by putting a movie song to it...
I NEED SUR TO LOVE GURBAANI....
Like I hate that at akj programs.. If I am ever asked to do kirtan.. I have to think of akj tunes.. and tht we are not open towards everything.. and that we don't really like look at other forms of communicating...
because they are beautiful as well...
but if we look at sur.. and raag.. and prem.. and taal. and combine them.. it can create something amazing..
im not saying that people don't use raags are terrible people. they are still awesome gursikhs..
but I think that we as a jatha.. need to make a more of a combined effort in to integrating more raags into a kirtan.. to make it more anandmayee..
I mean it is anandmayee without it .. but I feel like it would bring it up to a different level..
my opinion
SO what I am saying is open your eyes to different raags...
I mean like just listen to raags and see how much it effects you
with that I mean.. we need to bring back tanti saajaa.... including taus( my favorite) <3 , dilruba,
and add pyaar with them
I love akj programs. .and the akj tunes.. but I think we need to also open our minds to the ahhahahahahas of raags.. and kirtan
because raag is beauty initself..
Please please please please with folded hands.. I do benti to jatha sangat.. please hear the beauty in tanti sajaas.. lets bring rabab,dilrubas, taus to rainsabayeeas.. because guru sahibaan did kirtan with these sajaas... so if guru sahibaan did kirtan with these sajaan.. why why why don't we use this...
why not bring back the traditions.. I mean if we where cholaes.. and wear kamar kasae.. and kirpaanaa.. why cant we wear raagaas on our tounges.. why cant we wear the attire of raagas on our tongues.. if we practice gatka.. then why ignore raagaas. and not learn them...
MUSIC IS IMPORTANT TOO.... as important as anything else.. lets not put it down... even a little bit
Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa
Vaheguru ji ki Fateh