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HEARTBROKEN :-(

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HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 17, 2013 05:55AM
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Daas is 23 years old and was with in a relationship with a girl from high school since I was 17. A year ago she broke up with me. 

When I was with my girlfriend mistakes were made. I wasn't much into sikhi at the time and I ended up sleeping with my girlfriend.  To be honest I love her very much and have been there for her emotionally or in any other way possible. 

Last year she broke up with me saying she just doesn't love me anymore (even though we were together for 5 years) and now she has another boyfriend. Problem is I'm still madly in love with her and am very heartbroken. Because we've slept together I morally feel wrong being away from her and feel I'm doing her injustice by not marrying her - but there's nothing I can do because she has someone else now and I'm still stuck all alone and depressed. 

To get over my heartbreak I took the support of bani, I try and do my nitnem daily, I listen to Salok mahala 9 daily and I read two astpadees of sukhmani sahib ji daily. 
Even though I listen to bani daily I feel I still am heartbroken and depressed. It's gotten to the point where the doctor has put me on depression pills. 

Can Sangat ji please consider me as a younger brother and guide me? Can Sangat ji please suggest any specific banis I can read to get out of this situation?

I feel very lost depressed and lonely ATM. It's been like this for well over a year now and no matter what I do nothing makes me feel better. 

I'm sorry if I have offended anyone but really need some guidance in getting over this rough time and getting back into sikhi.  

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 17, 2013 08:09AM
Young brother most of what we are experiencing on this earth has been going on for countless centuries and has already been experienced by countless people before us and shall continue to experience, long after we are gone. I often take refuge in this fact of life. If one can gain deeper understanding of this fact one derives great strength from many quarters.
What you are experiencing, has been experienced by countless people before this. And one thing we have seen is that as time passes and as the young person matures into adulthood he starts seeing his past in a different light. As far as the emotions go they never remain the same, they too shall change, albeit with time.
Now my suggestion is very practical. Treat the heartbreak as a emotional depression and cure it by efforts at two levels. Physical and mental. Physical is right now more important because you can do it even if your mind is not 100% into it. By physical I mean all the beneficial physical activities such as sports, exercises, pranayama etc.
If you play football, or some other sport in which heartbeat is increased to a high level, and blood circulates fully in the body, it would be very helpful. This is because physical activity affects our hormonal secretions and those in turn affect our moods. Long walks, lifting weights, moderate jogging, anything can help. Pranayama can help too.

I would stay away from anti-depressant pills, if I were you. Physical exercise should do the same trick.

But of course, it goes without saying, do not do anything beyond the normal range, and do not do anything which your body cannot cope with. Be moderate in everything. DO NOT HURT YOURSELF by doing too much or too heavy.

This should be coupled with efforts at the mental and spiritual level. You are already reciting baani, which is very good. You need to tell yourself that this relationship has run its course and you should now stop thinking about it. Obviously the girl has moved on. You should move on too. Jo galti ho gai, so ho gai, hun agge dekh ke challo.
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 17, 2013 09:59AM
Thank you ji, I will definitley indulge in physical activities such as sports and working out. Can you suggest if there's any particular bani which I can read/listen to which will make me feel better?
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 17, 2013 07:03PM
Maybe she doesn't have anybody

Maybe you are completely mistaken
S.Sjee

Maybe your girlfriend loves you

Maybe you should just ask her

Love is love and love may be distracted by the 5 dooths but love never truly goes away..and maybe she realizes her stupidity and feels so mad at herself... and maybe she thought you didn't love her

Girls tend to get really scared really really easily( this is coming from singhni's perspective)


and back to your original question: I do dukhbanjani sahib, aasa di vaar, basant ki vaar, and sukhmani sahib when I am depressed
and then I engage in light exercises near the beautiful trees.. and appreciate guru sahib's creation.. and then I do chopai sahib.. and that makes me so peppy

Chandi di vaar is like an exhilarating roller coaster( superman at six flags if you want specification)

Jagardang nagardang shabad makes you feel like you are jumping on the clouds!!!

And don't forget degh.. degh is so awesome... degh is so yummy...especially when made by rehitvaan gursikhs...( you should make it yourself.. because it is so rare and hard to find)

I personally eat it degh in only smagams... when its in a sarabloh bata... and rehitvaan gursikhs have prepared it

it makes all the difference...

degh without sarabloh bata tastes like bitter milk gone bad

degh with sarabloh bata tastes like amrit..you know the kind you get at amritsanchaars? That stuff is so good..

And doing swaas giraas abhiyaas makes you feel really light inside... its like a drug really.. better than coc..ecstasy, in Mumbai(huka)
and sharabaa.. gurrroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooovaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhgurrrrooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooogurrrrroooovahgurrroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooovaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhgurrroooooooooooosmiling smiley smiling smiley !!!


It gives you this amazing sleep..Getting high off of naam is so much fun... makes me really hyper

so don't go on anti depressants.. when you have naam simran... gurshabad..smiling smiley ( to keep you going)



And antidepressant are soooooooooooooooo dangerous
are like stupid disgusting gand


SARAB ROGH KA AUKHAD NAAM!!!!!!


So lets do those fun paaths to make life better.. make the rainy cloud go away

And don't forget to eat your bananas and oranges

Very very healthy

So keep up with your health and your simran and baniya and you should be very very better in no time

Remember do not stop eating your fruits.. you know for example: bananas and oranges

Vaheguru ji ka Khalsa
Vaheguru ji ki Fateh
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 17, 2013 08:47PM
Please read the following write-up by Bhai Kulbir Singh from a while back.

Preetam Singh

Majnoo: "If I don't get married to her I will die"

Meaning of Majnoo

Majnoo literally means crazy. Other synonyms for this word in Indian languages are Divaana, Baura, Baawra, Pagla, Paagal, Kamla etc.

Even though the word Majnoo means Divaana but in Punjabi, Hindi and Urdu, this word is used for such person who becomes crazy in love. Mostly, Majnoo is associated with such male lover who goes crazy over infatuation with a female.

The most famous worldly Majnoo has been a person called Qaiz who became crazy in love with a girl called Laila. He became so crazy that he left his home and really became a crazy person and soon people forgot his real name and everyone started calling him Majnoon-e-Laila which means Majnoo of Laila.

If an ordinary worldly person hears this story, he is probably inspired and loves it but when a Gurmukh hears about the plight and fate of Qaiz, he feels sorry for Qaiz but also knows that while the love of Qaiz may have been sincere and genuine but his object of love was false. He wasted his human life in love of an idol of flesh and blood.

Two types of Majnoos

There are two types of Majnoos out there – Majnoos of Vaheguru and Majnoos of Laila.

It’s okay if worldly people are Majnoos of Laila but when we find a Gursikh looking person become a Majnoo of Laila our heads are lowered with shame. We are not going to bother about non-Sikh Majnoos because they don’t concern us but our worry is for Sikh youth (males and females) who are increasingly imitating their Western peers and acting out like them by getting involved in boyfriend-girlfriend relationships.

Summary of a Conversation between a Sikh Majnoo and a Gursikh

Here is a brief conversation between a Sikh youth who became a Majnoo and a Gursikh who was trying to dissuade him from committing a mistake and becoming a Majnoon-e-Laila:

“If I don’t get married to her I will die” – Dear brother when you took Amrit, wasn’t the understanding that your life was now not yours but Guru Sahib’s? This was the whole idea of giving head to Guru Sahib. If you are so eager to die, there are worthy causes for dying. Why die to get married to an idol of flesh and blood?

“But my love for her is not physical; I love her soul” – What are you talking about brother? Your love is not with her body but with her soul? Have you seen your own Aatma (soul) yet? Then how did you manage to see her soul and fall in love with it? Save yourself if you can. This relationship has already put a black stain on your White chador of Sikhi. If you still don’t wake up, you will fall further deep in this trap of Maya. Wake up and realize that your relationship with Guru Sahib takes precedence over everything else.

“What I meant was that my love for her is purely platonic (without Kaam)” – Dear brother, this human life was not given to us by Guru Sahib to have Kaamic love or non-Kaamic love. Anything that can possibly break or weaken our relationship with Vaheguru, should be avoided. If she is meant to be for you, then by the work of Vaheguru, you will get married to her. When the time for Anand Sanskaar arrives, you will get married. Don’t go around hunting for marriage partners like Western people.


Why a Gurmukh does not become Majnoo of a Laila

Gurmukhs realize that everything that is visible is false and nothing in this world is true. They fall in love with the creator of this world - Vaheguru - by chanting his Naam day and night. They fall in love with Naam and the Giver of Naam – Satguru. Gurmukhs too are Majnoos. They are Majnoon-e-Allah i.e. Majnoos of Vaheguru.

Bhai Nandlal jee has put forward a very interesting Pankiti:

ਗੋਇਆ ਦੋ ਜਹਾਂ ਰਾ, ਬ-ਜਵੇ ਨਾ ਸਿਤਾਨਦ।
ਮਜਨੂਨੇ ਤੌ, ਕੈ ਆਸ਼ਕੇ ਲੈਲਾ ਬਾਸ਼ਦ।


(Goya (Bhai Nandlal jee) does not place the price of two worlds equal to even a seed of Jau. Why would your Majnoo O Vaheguru, become an Aashiq (lover) of a Laila?)

Bhai Sahib is asking a question – why would Vaheguru’s Majnoo become infatuated with a Laila? Laila here represents a girl (or a boy in case of girls). One heart is capable of having only one lover. Once the heart is taken by one lover, it can’t be taken away by someone else. One heart, in one lifetime can only truly love one personality. A Gurmukh’s heart is already taken by Vaheguru. There is no chance that a Gurmukh would lose his heart to a worldly lover.

Coming back to Bhai Sahib’s question why would a Vaheguru jee’s Majnoo be Aashiq on a Laila? The question can be answered with another question – Why would someone who is in love with Truth, fall in love with False?

Below are some examples from history that highlight the high moral characters of Gursikhs.

Sardar Baghel Singh

One of the incidents that highlight the high moral character of Puratan Sikhs, took place during the 1700s, and involves a Muslim girl of Lahore royal family that fell in the hands of a Jatha of Singhs under the command of Sardar Baghel Singh. Sardar jee in those times was in his prime and a very handsome young man. On the other hand, this Muslim princess whose name I can’t remember now, was known for her good looks. She was accustomed to getting attention for her good looks. Anyone who looked at her once would look at her again as is the natural reflex. At first when she found herself amidst the sworn enemy of her family – the Singhs, she was terrified. But when she noticed that Singhs were not even looking at her, she got a bit surprised and upset too. She couldn’t understand why no one was looking at her and why her beauty was not found to be attractive here. She was safely escorted back to her parents but before that she got an opportunity to talk to Sardar Baghel Singh. He explained to her the high moral standards set by Guru Sahib. She got very impressed hearing all this. Such was the character of Singhs, in olden days. This incident has been very beautifully captured by the superb writing of Sardar Sadhu Singh Hamdard the former editor of Punjabi Ajit in India. I read this when I was a child.


Master Tara Singh and the English woman

An English woman wrote a very interesting incident concerning Master Tara Singh. Master Tara Singh was very young at that time and was travelling on a train. Across from him a beautiful young English woman was sitting. She had been accustomed to attention from men but she was surprised and very impressed to see that not once did Master jee try to take a glance at her. So impressed was she that she actually wrote about this incident. Such was the high character of our leaders in the past.


Bau Mal Singh jee in Belgium

Bau Mal Singh jee, one of the closest companion of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee was serving in 1st World War in Belgium. During the evening time, he was sitting on a bench when some women sat near him. The started conversing with him and at some point asked him if he liked them. They had other intentions for Bau jee but they did not know that Bau jee was not an ordinary person. He was a player of high spiritual states. Bau jee responded by saying that surely he liked them. They were very pleased to hear this. The next moment Bau jee said that he liked them like his sister and daughter. They were shocked to hear and fled uttering unintelligible utterings.


Sant Arjun Singh jee

Sant Arjun Singh jee was a companion of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee. Sant jee was a very great soul. When Bhai Sahib was arrested, he too was arrested by police and they asked him if he knew Bhai Sahib. His response was very interesting. He said, “what to talk about me, the three worlds know Bhai Sahib”. The police released him after keeping him in detention for couple of days. He knew not what fear was. He worried not about anything. He stayed in the divine state of Naam all the time.

One day, he was submerged in the divine colours of Naam that he wandered unintentionally to that part of the city where flesh trade takes place. He was young and handsome and as is the custom of flesh trade bazaar, the working women there started calling and seducing him. At that point Sant jee got aware of his surroundings. He was not a normal person like Ajamal who was hit by Kaam when a young prostitute had just looked at him provocatively and this way lost his whole life to Kaam. Sant jee were very accomplished Gursikh and right away he was hit by immense bairaag. In full bairaag, he in a loud piercing voice started doing kirtan. Imagine what chaos would have occurred in this bazaar at the sight of a Gurmukh-Sant doing kirtan. The hearts that were burning with the fire of Kaam were extinguished in an instant. The women who just a moment ago were trying to seduce Sant jee, fell at his feet. Their hearts were purified by the effect of Gurbani kirtan. They beseeched and they implored to him to save them from Kalyug. Sant jee stayed oblivious and when they continued their imploring, Sant jee freed himself from them and hurriedly left the place. Before leaving he declared that only they will be saved who accept the amrit of Siri Dasmesh jee. Such was the character of Gursikhs of those times.

The Piteous State of Today’s Sikh Youth

If we notice a Gursikh, who has taken Amrit of Guru Sahib and becomes so attracted to the member of opposite sex that he (or she) can only think of her and can’t live without her, then surely such person was never in love with Guru Sahib. Every now and then we hear of a Gursikh brother or sister, shamelessly declaring that he or she will die unless he or she marries such and such person. How did a Gursikh end up at such stage? Wasn’t he an Amritdhari to begin with? How did he violate such a strict order of Guru Sahib of considering other-women as mothers, sisters and daughters?

Our youth now-a-days has reached such state that it has no hesitation or shame before openly communicating with the members of opposite sex. Today they start chatting with someone, tomorrow they start sharing their problems with each other, the day after tomorrow they develop feelings for each other and soon they are going out. Even at Kirtan Samagams where countless Gurmukhs are engaged in praising the true Lord, some of the misled youth are overcome with Aashiqaana feelings (Amorous feelings). The high, impregnable character of Khalsa youth has taken such a beating. Today if you look around, you can count on your fingertips such individuals who have not been stained by entering into relationships before marriage.

The Internet has really shrunk the world. Today, if something occurs in the Sikh community in one country, it quickly spreads across the globe. If a young male or female commits an act of transgression, then the reputation of such individual is stained for life. Once one’s character gets stained, it’s hard to build it back.

Gursikhs must rise above the Maya of this world and maintain strong Khalsa character. The time of marriage and the partner for life has already been chosen by Vaheguru. So relax and stop hunting for your life partner on your own. A Sikh youth who keeps strong character, keeps Sikhi Rehit is always in demand as far as marriage is concerned. A youth who starts hunting for a life partner on his own, soon gets his character stained and before he or she realizes, it’s too late.

No one is saying that we should become a segregated society like the Muslims and keep Purdah and don’t talk with each other at all. What’s required is to know our limits. Far too many Kaam-related mistakes are being committed by our youth because of their proximity to members of opposite sex.

May Guru Sahib do Kirpa and enable his Sikhs to keep a strong moral character on which Guru Sahib can be proud of.

Bhul Chuk dee Maafi jee

Kulbir Singh
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 18, 2013 07:39PM
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Can Sangat ji please consider me as a younger brother and guide me? Can Sangat ji please suggest any specific banis I can read to get out of this situation?

ਬਾਰਹ ਮਾਹਾ ਮਾਂਝ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ is wonderful and extremely beautiful bani which teaches us to break away from false love while attaching ourselves to true love. The colors and love of this bani makes all other love seem black and white. This bani is extremely short ,but extremely powerful giving lots and lots of spiritual benefit. It has the capability to turn the winter heart into the season of spring ( Vasakhi); thus, keeping the Khalsa spirit well and alive. We cannot thank Dhan Sri GUru Arjan DEv Ji for giving us this wonderful bani. All bani is beautiful. Bani is medicine and every patient has a different diagnosis requiring a different medicine. You seem to be suffering from dual love and this bani touches on this subject throughout. This bani Is a journey taking to the jeev atma out of false attachments and reminding the jeeva atma the goal in life.

ਪੁਤ੍ਰ ਕਲਤ੍ਰ ਨ ਸੰਗਿ ਧਨਾ ਹਰਿ ਅਵਿਨਾਸੀ ਓਹੁ ॥
ਪਲਚਿ ਪਲਚਿ ਸਗਲੀ ਮੁਈ ਝੂਠੈ ਧੰਧੈ ਮੋਹੁ ॥
ਬਾਰਹ ਮਾਹਾ ਮਾਂਝ ਮਹਲਾ ੫

Waaheguru too sweet!
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 19, 2013 08:56AM
Do lots of sangat....
Do lots of naam and if u have slept with ur gf....and whatever...
Then plzz firstly take a amrit bata ......bcoz without it u cnt forget those things.....
And do ardass to guru mahraj whenever u feel those missing feeling...stop at tht time....just do some path or naam jap physically and mentally.....
And increase shukmani sahib asthpadees to full sukhmani sahib
And do ardasss
Only naam and bani has tht power to heal any wound .....even if it is frm heart or physically....

Sorry i dnt read all cmmnts above......i dnt knw weather someone tell u these things and if yes then earn it.....plz

ਬਿਨ ਹਰ ਭਜਨ ਨਹੀ ਛੂਟਕਾਰਾ.....plzzz
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 20, 2013 11:25AM
preetam singh - amazing share... thanks for it...

SS ji - since it is a kaljugi relation it cannot last forever... falling out of love automatically shows it was not true and it is a normal thing to happen... you can't force anyone to love you for whatever you have done in past... so i think you should move on...

only a true relation i.e. between a sikh and a guru lasts forever...

as p21singh has mentioned 1st thing that you should do is either take amrit or have a peshi...

to get over it along with alot of path start reading history... if you have already read it, try reading it again... and think who is more important for you guru who gave his sarbans for you or the one who left you...

you'll get over her when you understand who is more important for you...

bhul chuk muaf...
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Re: HEARTBROKEN :-(
September 20, 2013 10:03PM
"..from her and feel I'm doing her injustice by not marrying her - but there's nothing I can do because she has someone else now and I'm still stuck all alone and depressed. "
I just have to add reading above line about being alone...Waheguru was and is only One too since He created His Great, Almighty Self, SATNAM SRI WAHEGURU NAAM was Waheguru's chant to create Himself (what my limited understanding tells me www.srigranth.org), and Waheguru meditated on Naam for very long ALL ALONE, to bring about creation, and us...what keeps us alive is His Light...NAAM...so if only we can allay the distraction our physical self from our jot self, to know Wahegury SADA ANG SANGEY...i am also guilty of this introvert, self pity, ego overpowering attitude ALL THE TIME...but Guru Maharaj is great to love us so much with gift of Gurbani, Naam, and probably having a good laugh
at our drowning in jhoot...but try talking to Waheguru (when no cynic is around to think you are losing your mind, especially if your concrete apartment wall is not sound proof)...you will be so pleasantly surprised that HE ACTUALLY HEARS YOU BY REPLYING IN HIS OWN WAY, THUS JUSTIFYING HE IS INDEED SADA ANG SANGEY SO WE ARE NEVER ALONE ji...only those who drown in jhoot like your friend will be alone in hereafter ji..you will have NAAM, UNLIMITED SADHU, AND WAHEGURU (as reminded in Salok Mahla 9 that u do..rahio Naam, rahio Sadhu, rahio Guru Gobind!
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