Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 December 21, 2009 09:43AM |
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Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 December 28, 2009 10:05AM |
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SO Im guessing because of the preposition Naaley ਦਰਿ is not a verb?
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Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 03, 2010 09:19PM |
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Bhai Sahib, I was wondering what is the meaning of the following pangti
ba(n)dh khalaasee bhaanai hoe ||
hor aakh n sakai koe ||
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Since there is a sihari in Bandh could the sihari be a substitute for bihari giving the meaning bandh a possessive meaning. Meaning that one has been bonded/enslaved ( Bandh)and been free ( Khalasee) due to Akal Purakh? Does it go against grammar rules to give a word with a sihari the meaning of a bihari if the word next to it already has a bihari ( ex Khalasee) in it? Also if Bandh is given a bihari meaning (possessive meaning) is there a pause after Bandh and Khalasee?
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Or is the word Bandh a preposition. Meaning being from outside attachments comes only through Akal Purakh Jis will?
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Also I was wondering the meaning of the following pangti
akharaa sir sa(n)jog vakhaan ||
The noun head ( sir) also has a sihari. Does this mean the noun is a preposition and referring to Naam given inside your head in which the words( Gurmantar) is planted inside you Does the word Vakhan mean Vakhanee/Abhyiaasi? Or does Vakhan refer to internal abhyiaas/Jaap?
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In the next Pangti Guru Ji sAYS
jin eaehi likhae this sir naahi ||
Again sir has a sihari but it does not appear to have the same meaning as the previous pangti. It appers Guru Ji is talking about "above the head " Jaam Kaal does not appear for those who recite ( Vakhan) Gurmantar?
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What does sanjog mean in the previous pangti? What meaning does the aunkad have on the word sanjog?
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 03, 2010 10:11PM |
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 04, 2010 09:24AM |
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thanks for the explanation BHai Sahib, but can you explain how you got these meanings according to grammar.
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I dont understand how sanjog is referring to powers of Karma . I do believe sanjog is referring to power, but exactly how does sanjog refer to karma of being separated or united to people and possessions?
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How did you get these meanings according to grammar. I thought sanjog meant union with WaaheGuru, and I thought lekhey is referring to the writing ( reciting) of Gurmantar in the mind
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Since sir ( head) is referring to surat wouldnt the preposition "in" instead of "on" be more appropriate?
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 04, 2010 09:31PM |
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 05, 2010 04:08AM |
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Bhai Sahib Im not claiming in any shape or from that I understand the pangti. But I am highly convinced that the meanings refer more to Naam and less to karma. I only asked that you to clarify your translation.
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Also I was thinking more about you comment "The word ਬੰਦਿ is a noun in Apadaan Kaarak (Ablative case)" today and I dont understand how anywords in Gurbani could be considered to be foreign words. Gurbani is unique that we cant say it has a specific language even though the majority of the language is in Punjabi. This is the uniqueness of Gurbani I dont understand how we can apply this English rule to the divine language of Gurbani.
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 05, 2010 09:41AM |
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 05, 2010 10:21AM |
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My understanding of a noun in Ablative case in English is that the word has origins outside of the Greek- European language. So I do not understand how certain words in Gurbani could be consideres Ablative. There are no words that are foreign in Gurbani. Language of Gurbani is divine I dont undestand how this rule can apply to Gurbani which is beyond regions.
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Also can you explain how Sanjog is referring to uniting with people and possessions.
My understadning of Sanjog is connecting with Akal Puraks divine power/force ( Kudrat)
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 05, 2010 12:21PM |
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 05, 2010 01:24PM |
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Bhai Sahib there is no mention of the word seperation in the pangti
ਅਖਰਾ ਸਿਰਿ ਸੰਜੋਗੁ ਵਖਾਣਿ ॥ ਜਿਨਿ ਏਹਿ ਲਿਖੇ ਤਿਸੁ ਸਿਰਿ ਨਾਹਿ ॥
The main emphasis on this pauri seems to be emphasis on Kudrat which is understood internally through Naam. So im still puzzled as to how you beleive this is referring to meeting of people. If this was true it would seem like a random statement if we take into consideraton previous and proceeding Pauri.
Re: Santhiya - Siri Jap jee Sahib - Pauri 12 to 15 January 06, 2010 09:57PM |