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Kulbir Singh (from Tapoban Forum, 2007)
The English language meanings above are literal meanings only and confuses the reader instead of helping him understand Gurbani. Bhagat Kabir jee was a mushkil-pasand poet. His baani is very mehingi-baani and has very deep meanings. Many of his saloks are unsolved and only reaching his spiritual state one can understand his baani. What can we Kaljugi jeevs with meagre intelligences claim about understanding his baani. Below is a humble attempt to interpret this shabad by this insect:
ਪਹਿਲਾ ਪੂਤੁ ਪਿਛੈਰੀ ਮਾਈ ॥
Pooth means son but over here it means son of Vaheguru. The jeev-aatma is the progeny of Vaheguru and has all the qualities that Vaheguru himself has. For this reason, this pooth (son) of Vaheguru comes first and maayee i.e. maya that was created at a later time, comes pichhairee i.e. later i.e. is second in heirarchy.
ਗੁਰੁ ਲਾਗੋ ਚੇਲੇ ਕੀ ਪਾਈ ॥੧॥
Mann (mind) that is really jyot-roop or Aatma-roop is following maya and this way falling at the feet of maya. Mann being jyot-roop is the Guru or leader but it is falling at the feet of disciple or servant maya. Maya is the follower but since mann has been led astray under the influence of maya, it is following maya instead of following his jyot (aatma).
ਏਕੁ ਅਚੰਭਉ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਤੁਮ੍ਹ੍ਹ ਭਾਈ ॥
Listen to this extremely strange development O Brother.
ਦੇਖਤ ਸਿੰਘੁ ਚਰਾਵਤ ਗਾਈ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Mann that is jyot saroop and really the king (mann Raja Sultan) is serving the agents of maya and this sight is as if a lion is serving cows by grazing them. Instead of maya serving the Mann or jeev-aatma, the things have gone other way around i.e. mann is serving maya.
ਜਲ ਕੀ ਮਛੁਲੀ ਤਰਵਰਿ ਬਿਆਈ ॥
The fish that cannot live without water has left water and given birth on a tree i.e. has started living on trees. Fish again represents jeev-aatma or mann that has left Ocean Vaheguru and taken up residence away from the Ocean on trees i.e. has been led towards maya.
ਦੇਖਤ ਕੁਤਰਾ ਲੈ ਗਈ ਬਿਲਾਈ ॥੨॥
Cat cannot take on a dog. To explain to us, how the jeev-aatma has fallen prey to a much inferior entity maya, Bhagat jee is giving us all these examples. The dog roop Jeev-aatma is being captured by the cat roop maya. Some scholars have interpreted Dog as representing santokh but I don�t know how can dog be called santokh (contentment) when we know that dog is instead known for the opposite of santokh i.e. greed. It seems better to interpret Dog as representing faithfulness to Vaheguru because dogs are known to be loyal to their owners and are not known to be santokhi. In this light, this pankiti would mean that the jeev-aatma has shed its nature of faithfulness and loyalty towards Vaheguru and has become slave to cat roop maya. Cat here represents the hunting nature of maya.
ਤਲੈ ਰੇਬੈਸਾ ਊਪਰਿ ਸੂਲਾ ॥
The jeev has uprooted his roots and has thus placed himself upside down i.e. has gone towards the way of maya.
ਤਿਸ ਕੈ ਪੇਡਿ ਲਗੇ ਫਲ ਫੂਲਾ ॥੩॥
Such tree that has roots up and branches towards the bottom will have only such deviant fruits.
ਘੋਰੈ ਚਰਿ ਭੈਸ ਚਰਾਵਨ ਜਾਈ ॥
Buffalo here represents Vaasna i.e. desires, sensuality etc and the horse represents the mann. The desires ride the mind and forces the mind to fulfill it�s demands of manmatt.
ਬਾਹਰਿ ਬੈਲੁ ਗੋਨਿ ਘਰਿ ਆਈ ॥੪॥
Bail or Oxen here represents patience and calmness of mind. The calmness of mind has left and its place has been taken by desires i.e. the jeev-aatma has moved towards maya leaving Vaheguru.
ਕਹਤ ਕਬੀਰ ਜੁ ਇਸ ਪਦ ਬੂਝੈ ॥
ਰਾਮ ਰਮਤ ਤਿਸੁ ਸਭੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਸੂਝੈ ॥੫॥੯॥੨੨॥
Siri Kabir jee is saying that whoever understands this true philosophy of life will indulge in Naam abhyaas i.e. will leave maya and move towards his father Vaheguru.
Baani is agam agaadh bodh. May Guru Sahib pardon my mistakes in interpreting baani above.
Daas,
Kulbir Singh
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doesn't it mean follow the bani of the guru INSTEAD of the vedas? ਤਜਾਇਆ means the word of the vedas and puranas. i think the first word, ਬਾਣੀ, means guru sahib's bani.
it wouldn't make sense to say ਬਾਣੀ and ਤਜਾਇਆ both if it was only talking about the vedas, right?
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