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Question: Beadbi CHARGES

Posted by Damandeep Singh 
Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 26, 2015 10:15AM
My question is how would a person be punished as per indian law for desecrating Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji's Saroop?

I know that In a historic judgment delivered on 29th March 2000, the Supreme Court of India had declared the Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji as a juristic person.

But what does that mean for someone who rips the Angs and demolishes or burns the Paavan Saroop?

Can a case of murder be filed against such culprits?
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 26, 2015 02:12PM
Asi hun court de chakran joge he reh gaye haan. Churasi da keda insaaf de dita court ne. Te hun hor ki umeed kar sakde haan.

Asi 21st century vich jamm ke, 1700-1850 AD de itehaas te bada maan karde haan. Soch ke vekho jena ne 2100 AD to baad jammna hai una ne te 1950-2050 AD de itehaas utte thukna he hai. Je kite una ne saadi thodi bahuti izzat karni v hai taan Sant ji atte khadku singha karke karani hai.

Asi hun facebook, twitter, whatsapp de reporter bann ke reh gaye haan. Ajoke samaye vich, jinne reporter sade panth vich hain unne puri duniya de media kol nahi hune. Sadi tayari begampura jaan di hai te facebook/twitter/whatsapp utte sava lakh message pa ke zaroor pahuch javange. Khalsa ji hun ek doosre nu message forward karan vich vyast rehnda hai.

Asi court vich case pa rahe haan, asi charge la rahe haan. Saade utte Dharamrai ne kinne case paune ne, atte kinne charge laune ne, soch ke vekho. Dharamrai ne puchna hai, "Khalsa ji kede haq na amrit chakya si, beadbi karan vale ek bande nu vi gaddi nahi chaad sakke tusi. Khalsa ji ki tuhanu bheek mangan vaaste tyar kita si. Ki tusi saari zindagi insaaf di bheek he mang de ravoge. Ki tusi saari zindagi road te naare baazi karde ravoge".

Dharamrai ne puchna hai, "Khalsa ji tusi kalle kalle sava lakh te akhaunde ho. Ki holle mahalle de din tuhadi ginti sava lakh bhi nahi hundi ki 50 km chandigarh ja ke ek paapi chand nu gaddi chaad sako. Par Khalsa ji tusi Shahidi parab te Sri Darbar sahib vich aapas che kirpana zaroor chala sakde ho".

Saada jeevan ek intezaar ban ke reh gaya hai. Saanu intezaar hai koi sant dobara aauga, aa ke dhur ki bani paduga, te saade haq saanu vaapis duauga, te panth da sab kuch sawaar ke chala jauga. Asi ardaas karni hai par khalsa ji asi apni hathi kuch nahi karna.

Saanu sharam aauni chahidi hai ki saanu neend v kida aundi hai. Saadi anakh mar gayi, akhan vicho sharam da pani mar gaya, bairaag mar gaya. Hun shaheedi vi kede moo na pavange.

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 27, 2015 06:47AM
There is no Indian law which protect Khalsa rights in these situations.

SGPC, DGMC and private printers they all heavily contributed in beadbi by printing Khandit baani (Pad Ched). Furthermore distributed Khandit Saroops without any background checks. This massive distribution resulted in current situation.

Until Panth takes care of this first til then It would be harder to control such incidents. GOI is against Sikhs, why would they care for respect of Guru Sahib if our own Sikhs are disrespectful.
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 27, 2015 09:59AM
No just disrespect Bhai Jasjit Singh Jio,
TOTALLY NO BAROSA.
Local Gurduara mostly empty in Darbar Sahib but langar always someone chatting away or on mobile tuning in to jhoot. Many get ardas answered but keep idols in home, vehicle, go mandir etc. Local weekly ladies doing Sukhmani but I witness hateful attitude towards sangat, frequent nindak etc.
SOME Sikh youth from punjab smoking, womanising with foreign non sikh maids in little india, singapore after Gurduara. But it is not just Singapore, in usa, canada Gurduara also sangat talking or outdoors during Akhand Path
Would Bhai Randhir Singh Jio behave as we sikhs do today?
Bhul chuk muaf Vahiguroo
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 27, 2015 01:27PM
Guru Granth Sahib Jio tells us Vahiguroo does not judge us on our good, bad, success or loser qualities, but how much RASFUL, INFINITE LOVEFUL Gurushabad, Vahiguroo praises we have accumulated, and how much love we have for each other, and Vahiguroo, because JIN PREM KIO, TIN HE PRABH PAIO JIO_/\_
bhul chuk muaf Vahiguroo
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Dear Sangat Ji,

I had a very technical question, which has been taken into another direction.

Obviously everything you said is totally true.

But the Supreme Court of India has declared Guru Ji's Saroop as a jursitic Person. This thread is related to the technical Situation not with spirituality or religious Sentiments.

What does it mean to be a juristic Person? They have also declared that Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji is not to be equated to Hindu Idols. SO in that case what does it mean by Indian law if you rip apart the pages??
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 29, 2015 12:46AM
Define juristic per indian court definition ji?
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 29, 2015 07:19AM
Bhai Damandeep Singh Jio, the following link may provide something useful, although I do not agree with it wholly.

[www.globalsikhstudies.net]
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 30, 2015 06:22PM
Sat Sri Akal Guru Jio Parvasa_/\_,
Indian supreme court has further desecrated Guru Granth Sahib Jio with that term, in my manmukh opinion.
Guru Granth Sahib Jio is SUPREME KING CREATOR OF ALL and above qualities of person and juristic ji.
Truly sad that term has to be given to judge a VERY OBVIOUS DISHONOR TO HIGHEST AUTHORITY ji.
If only our Sikh kaum, especially those in high status in India, and world could unite to acknowledge our Sikh Rehit, and Sanctity of Guru Granth Sahib Jio.
Then, seek long overdue injustice, crime, oppression...against Gurmukh Gems, and KING OF KINGS, GURU GRANTH SAHIB Jio_/\_!
Bhul chuk muaf Vahiguroo
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
October 31, 2015 06:47PM
Bhul chuk muaf Guru Pyareo Jio:
Typo error: seek long overdue justice against injustice, crime, and oppression...
I would to add seeking justice not from badal, indian govt or world (whom Waheguru is causing to stray from Sach) but from WAHEGURU, by firmly trusting in Guru Granth Sahib Jio atey practising rehit set by Guru Gobind Singh Jio to naturally weaken maya jio_/\_
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
November 01, 2015 07:00AM
A video from talking punjab show.

[www.youtube.com]

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
November 06, 2015 01:16PM
The Sant Samaj have further lowered themselves in the eyes of the Quom and supported the Badals once more and are opposing Sarbat Khalsa. What are the conditions for a Sarbat Khalsa and do we have the right people leading the movement?
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Re: Question: Beadbi CHARGES
November 07, 2015 04:09PM
In the article provided by Mohan Singh, it saysPunishment for murder cannot be awarded for bonfire etc. of Guru Granth Sahib because murder means killing of a human being by a human being. Besides, the Guru of the Sikhs, being immortal, can neither be killed nor does it die.

This article discusses implication of a courtcase in which SGGS was declared a juristic person.
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