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The nature of the supreme state (impersonalists vs personalists)

Posted by Uttam Singh 
VahegurooJiKaKhalsaVahegurooJiKiFateh!

Lately I have been reading up about what various Indian traditional indian philosophies believe about liberation. There is a great debate over the nature of liberation, mainly in the sense of merger (impersonal) vs. union through bhagti leading to a state of being in constant service (personal). Both views seem to be prevalent within Gursikhs. However there is no doubt from Gurmat that Vaheguroo is an infinitely loving being. Yet, what is the complete, ultimate state for a Gursikh?

On the one hand all philosophies before gurmat which support complete merger with the supreme (which gurmat does tell us, i.e. drops merging in water), do not really talk much about love or experiencing eternal love. More just becoming one with truth. Bhagats of other traditions (such as Hare Krishnas) call such people impersonalists and mayavadis (because they even consider the idea of the supreme having a personality to be maya). In Sikhi it would appear that this type of liberation is seen in the form of 'parkash' and seeing the jot of vaheguru everywhere, aswell as destruction of haume.

On the other hand the earlier philosophies which do talk about love are more about meeting the beloved and enjoying with him. However, by nature they don't seem to have the complete merger which Sikhi talks about- there seems to be a hint of some separateness still there. Followers of other paths say that these bhagats fall short of full merger with the divine as they are still a separate being from the supreme be able to serve the supreme. In Sikhi it would seem that this type of liberation is the very basis of our bhagti and longing to be with Akaal. It fits in with being a bhagat and enjoying rass of Vaheguru.

Yes Sikhi because of its mind-blowing love obviously tilts to the latter, but how does this allow for complete merger?

So Sikhi seems to have elements of both which is probably why different Gursikhs swing different ways on the issue. I am certain that Gurbani must settle this age old debate, what does Guru Sahib say?

(For some background info on this long running debate in Indian philosophies, check out [krishna.org] it makes for extremely interesting reading).

If Gursikhs such as Bhai Kulbir Singh jee, Bhai Bijla Singh Jee, Bhai Sukhdeep Singh Jee and all others could please share their opinions on this issue I would really appreciate it.
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ਸੁੰਨ ਕਲਾ ਅਪਰੰਪਰਿ ਧਾਰੀ ॥
Sunn Kalaa Aparanpar Dhhaaree ||

In the Primal Void, the Infinite Lord assumed His Power.

ਆਪਿ ਨਿਰਾਲਮੁ ਅਪਰ ਅਪਾਰੀ ॥

Aap Niraalam Apar Apaaree ||

He Himself is unattached, infinite and incomparable.

ਅਹਿਨਿਸਿ ਜੋਤਿ ਨਿਰੰਤਰਿ ਪੇਖੈ ॥

Ahinis Joth Niranthar Paekhai ||

अहिनिसि जोति निरंतरि पेखै ॥

see the Divine Light deep within your nucleus, day and night.

ਆਨੰਦ ਰੂਪੁ ਅਨੂਪੁ ਸਰੂਪਾ ਗੁਰਿ ਪੂਰੈ ਦੇਖਾਇਆ ॥੨॥

Aanandh Roop Anoop Saroopaa Gur Poorai Dhaekhaaeiaa ||2||

The Lord, the embodiment of bliss, incomparably beautiful, reveals the Perfect Guru. ||2||

ਗੁਪਤ ਪ੍ਰਗਟ ਹਰਿ ਘਟਿ ਘਟਿ ਦੇਖਹੁ ਵਰਤੈ ਤਾਕੁ ਸਬਾਇਆ ॥੨॥

Gupath Pragatt Har Ghatt Ghatt Dhaekhahu Varathai Thaak Sabaaeiaa ||2||

Behold the Lord, both hidden and manifest, in each and every heart; the unique Lord is permeating all. ||2||

Please read Guru Granth Sahib jee ang 1037......
God is love....also sargun & nirgun..... void was alive....Sunn Samadhi.......its listen to gurubani.....People can describe God but akath katha.....we don't have brains to understand.
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