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Is das a parrot?

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Is das a parrot?
July 28, 2014 07:11AM
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Do we say our nitnem with pyar, understanding and a desire to further learn & understand gurbani or do we behave as parrots?

The Most Awesome Parrot Says 'Waheguru'

Das hopes that das is not a parrot and will try harder to further learn the meanings behind what is said.
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 28, 2014 12:04PM
Dont crack jokes on the poor parrot....!

It became a medium of liberation for Ganika who is mentioned a few times in GurBanee
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 28, 2014 01:19PM
Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Yes, you are quite right Bhaji.

ਸੰਗਤਿਕਾਗੁਨੁਬਹੁਤੁਅਧਿਕਾਈਪੜਿਸੂਆਗਨਕਉਧਾਰੇ॥
The virtues of the Sangat, the Holy Congregation, are so very great. Even the prostitute was saved, by teaching the parrot to speak the Lord's Name.

There was no intention to joke, just making two points. The parrot is a very special (the owner is must be very fortunate). If you listen closely, it was saying some things unprompted @1:55 was going into simran. However this made das think about how much awareness animals have compared to people and although people have a higher awareness, do we use it correctly? do we actually follow Guru Ji's teachings or pay lip service? Is it possible for a parrot to be a Sikh and a Sikh a parrot?
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 28, 2014 01:37PM
guruvah Wrote:
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> Dont crack jokes on the poor parrot....!
>
> It became a medium of liberation for Ganika who is
> mentioned a few times in GurBanee


Lol stupid parrots
They are just manipulated into repeating everything they hear
Don't get too wired up about the parrot
Lol stupidity has a limit
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 28, 2014 05:46PM
It was not the parrot that was liberated but Ganika who was teaching the parrot to say Naam. In order to have to parrot say Naam, she had to repeat Naam many times which resulted in her getting rass from it. In short time she herself was hooked on to uttering Naam and this is what liberated her.

Here is an old write up about the parrot and Ganika:

Ganika literally means a prostitute or such woman who sells her body for money. There are several references in gurbani regarding ganika and how she obtained salvation.

I will narrate a brief story of one of the Ganikas (there is reference to two ganikas in gurbani).

There was once a ganika who lived in the outskirts of a city. All her life she did only bad karma and never even in her dreams did bhajan (simran, meditation) of Mere Raam jeeo. If someone ever asked her to do good deeds, she made fun of that person. She indulged in dirty worldly pleasures all day and actually did this profession not necessarily out of any problem or helplessness (majboori) but out of enjoyment.

Then as she grew older, she noticed people took less interest in her. She was in such profession that flourished only in the time of youth. She lost customers and as thus she started feeling dejected and also developed a lot of diseases. She was very worried about her future and did not know what to do.

One day it was raining very heavily when a Sadhu (a holy person), unaware that her house was a bad place came in to seek refuge. Actually some good karma from her previous life had sprouted and the reward that she got for this karma was the arrival of a Sadhoo (holy person) at her doorstep. She had never done sewa of holy people or good karma in her life. She out of her previous life’s good karma, did lot of sewa of the sadhoo. By this time the Sadhoo also had realized who she was. He chose to ignore her background.

Sadhoo Jan briefly spoke of the real purpose of one’s life in this world and told her about the next world. He also told her about hell and Jammdoots, the messengers of death who punish sinners in the next world. She had heard all this spiritual material many times before but this particular day was such an auspicious day that every word that the holy man spoke, got carved on her heart.

Before leaving, the Sadhu told her that he was very pleased with her service and hospitality and asked her to wish for something. At this she fell at his feet and said as follows, "O Sadhu jan, I have never done anything good in my life. I have experienced all pleasures of life and have now found out that all pleasures feel good only when you are enjoying them but in the aftermath, they result in great sorrow. O Pious One, if you are really merciful on me at this time, then kindly grant me such boon that I may be saved from jamdoots (messengers of death) and not lose honour in the next world".

Sadhoo jan thought that this woman had committed so many sins (paap) that she was not a suitable candidate for Naam and that even if she was to get Naam to japp (chant), she would not be able to concentrate on it. He thought of a very good idea to get her to chant Naam. He gave her his parrot and asked her to teach the parrot how to say Raam and that this will ensure her salvation in the next world. Sadhu Jan left after giving her this lesson of spirituality.

The Ganika (forgot what her real name was) brought her full faith on the bachan (words) of the Sadhoo and she now started on the mission to teach this parrot how to say Raam. Fortunately for her, this parrot was a real dumb parrot. It took a lot of effort on Ganika's part to teach him how to say Raam. Some of you may not be aware that parrot is a gifted bird because it can talk like humans. But off course they don't know the meaning of what they say.

Ganika spent her days and nights teaching the parrot, how to say Raam. She would say Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam in front of the parrot and parrot would make some effort to say it out but it took a long time to learn to say Raam because the parrot was a really dumb parrot.

Saying Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam had a mesmerizing effect on her. She could not stop saying Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam. She just went on and on saying Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam. The more she said Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam, the better she felt.

Her mann (mind) started getting purified and as her mind got purified she realized what Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam can do. Now she remembered that people who told her all her life to do good karma were right. She cried and cried and said Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam.

Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam is what she did all day after that. Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam is what she got absorbed in. Her rom rom (cells of her body) was full of shuker (gratitude) for that Sadhoo jan who had come to her home.

Even after the parrot had learned how to say Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam, she could not stop saying Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam Raam. Both the parrot and the Ganika kept saying Raam Raam Raam Raam all day.

In the end she became a great bhagat. Her name has been mentioned in Gurbani several times. Here is one pankiti to prove that:

Sooaa paRaavat, Ganika tari ||
Sooa means parrot, paRaavat means by teaching, Ganika over her is the lady we have been talking about above. “By teaching the parrot, the Ganika swam across this ocean of life and death.”

We must not forget that the Ganika was reciting Kirtam Naam and not the True Naam that Siri Guru Nanak Dev jee introduced to this world. If kirtam naam can have such an effect, imagine what Naam Gurmantr would do.

Daas,
Kulbir Singh
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 28, 2014 08:04PM
Kulbir Singh veer ji, surely parrot would also have had some laha of the naam jaap, maybe after death, in next lives?
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 29, 2014 08:00AM
We should feel blessed for being given human jooni this lifetime. May Guru Jee save us from animal joonis. But surely of all animal joonis the parrot is superior to the other animals that they have the ability of speech which means they can do simran of Gurmantar which might result in them getting human jooni in the next lifetime since doing Simran is the greatest of all karams.
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 29, 2014 10:58AM
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Kulbir Singh veer ji, surely parrot would also have had some laha of the naam jaap, maybe after death, in next lives?

Surely he must of the same way the Crow did Kaag Bhasunb sakhi. According to this Sakhi, a Brahmin in his previous life use to have a Guru who would instruct them to do worship of Nirgun Saroop, but the Brahmin kept asking for instructions to do worship of Sargun Saroop. Finally the Guru got frustrated and said " why do you keep crowing like a crow". The brhamin felt so shameful he fell at the Gurus feet and said your words will become true and I will be born as a crow in the next life. In the next life his parents from the previous life took him in as a crow and started teaching him to do Raam Jaap with each swas according to the instructions of their Guru ( his previous guru) and thus he attained mukhti
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Re: Is das a parrot?
July 29, 2014 05:42PM
I thought gurbani says everything and every animal in the world is chanting the name of lord in their own voices... Isn't that right??

Bhul chuk maaf..
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