Khalsa Raj

just to add...................

We do not want to repeat the same mistake as 1947. We tried with India but it did not work out and it will never. We have to get our country back as we had during Maharaja Ranjit Singh's rule. We have to get our religion's birth place back. Khalsa is meant ot be an indepedent and we have to struggle hard to be an indepedent. Please do not tell me that Singhs who gave up their lives and everythign else during 1984-1995 era made mistake. They were not fighting for personal gains but only for our Kaum. It is our obligation to fulfil their dream of an indepedence and an indepedent country Khalistan.

Sagg ji, I agree with you completely but most Sikhs these days lack vision, foresight and courage to do anything.

The true Khalsa has always been free, is free and always will be free. Their azaadi is the very ishq of Vaheguroo himself. Only manmukhs like me are ghulaam! Read from this what you will.

Bijla Singh ji,
It is unfortunate to know that today's Sikhs have forgotten all our struggles during bad times and Glorious history during good times. If we can ffight with Ahmed Shah Abdali and Nadershah and end the Mughal rule on Punjab, we can for sure end this fanatic Hindu rule as well. People do not see who is playing the shots behind the scene. Sikhs are killings Sikhs (specially during 1985-1995) and fanatic Hindu who is controlling everything is smiling because he is successful in his plans. Sikhs will not have any better time in Indian history when ; Prime Minister - Sikh, Amry Chief - Sikh and I believe Air Force chief is Sikh too; but has it changed anything for Amritdhari Sikhs?????????????? nothing. Amritdhari Sikhs are still looked upon as terrorists or trouble makers. We just witnessed dual standards of Indian Justice system and President's choice of mercy pleas. Are we expecting any better treatment in India? If people are satisfied with it, then I can not say anything. All I know, hindu fanatics are after Sikhs to damage our heritage, religion, our courageous nature to fight for justice. Mughal ruled India only to collect tax money but never interfered much in other kings day to day running their areas, British put together different kingdoms under their govt but there were still lot of Raja were running their own kingdoms the way they wanted but Fanatic Hindus is controlling everything. Our culture, our religion, our religious organizations, our gurdwaras................... when would we wake up from this sleep. Enemy is damaging our everything. Khalsa ji, wake up. Apna virsa sambhalo! Guru Sahib ne Khalsa zulam de khilaaf larhan lai banaaeyaa si, na ke zulam de muhre jhukan lai.Saddi mislaa di ghalna, sadae jhujharu singhan dian shahadataa nu ajaaeen naa gavaao! Apne rajae aap bano!

Again, I agree with you. Sikhs all over the world are not free to practice Gurmat as Guru Sahib ordained. A state is required for this and to extend support to all the Sikhs around the world. Along with physical slavery, Sikhs are becoming mentally enslaved the proof of which is their excuses guised as "logical statements" against Sikh sovereignty. Khalistan run under Panj Pyare is the only solution.

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Sagg
Enemy is damaging our everything. Khalsa ji, wake up. Apna virsa sambhalo!

Where is the enemy ?
Where is that everything that is getting damaged ?
Where is this virsa that needs sambhalna ?

I hope the answer to above questions is "Punjab".

So what is the action plan you are suggesting. This is not a cyber-war where you would log-in from X-Box, Nintendo or Playstation from UK, Canada, USA, Australia etc... and fight that war in Punjab.

War is fought on the land which is under attack. You cannot Remote-Log-In and fight the war of lands. Understand this ground reality.

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Sagg
Guru Sahib ne Khalsa zulam de khilaaf larhan lai banaaeyaa si, na ke zulam de muhre jhukan lai.

Haan Jee Veer Jee, Khalsa zulam de khilaaf larhan lai banaaeyaa si. Islayi Khalsa Jee apne apne flight de ticket katao te wapis aao. Sirf saal vich ek baar Darbar Sahib matha tekan na aao. Jo saade hadbas hai una te kar he rahe haan. Tusi vee aao te vadhiya plan baniye. Asi ithe tuhada intezaar kar rahe haan. Cheti aao.


ਪੰਕਜੁ ਮੋਹ ਪਗੁ ਨਹੀ ਚਾਲੈ ਹਮ ਦੇਖਾ ਤਹ ਡੂਬੀਅਲੇ ॥

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa,
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Jaskirat ji,
As Ghadar lehar was started by sikhs from foriegn land with the help of locals, I think we need similar thing. But the huge difference is that people in Punjab are refusing to accept the fact that they are Gulaam. They have to accept the fact that they do not have equal rights in the eyes of fanatic hindu regime. Sikhs at foriegn lands are ready to come back to fight with the indian ssytem but locals disourage them big time when they say please do not bother us, we are fine, we do not have any discrimination, we do not have any problem with our waters, language, punjabi speaking areas being left oout of Punjab etc.. They do not see any issue at all but whoever ever visited once in any foriegn country could see the difference and understand the descrimination. Bhai Daljit Singh Bittu tried his rights to express his views democratically but see the results. If anybody think that Khalistan is not Reality, it is because of their own ignorance and not having courage to take a stand on any issues. If people are still making Badals to come in power inspite of their past history of betraying sikhs ever since they are in politics, what does it tell you? It tells me that people are ignorant. They do not have any understanding of these politicians. Sikhs have been made to worry about their bread so that they can not even think about anything else. Local people has to understand what is right as per Khalsa traditions. Please note that whenever Indian govt. attacked sikhs, they got few foriegn govts. in confidence before taking drastic steps. We need to do the same. We need to involve other foriegn countries if we want to achieve anything. The war agiainst operession has to be waged worldwide.

eyesacademic ji,

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# The Police, the State or the Central government are NOT out for blood of Sikhs in Punjab. And nobody is gulaam in Punjab just because they are Sikhs. In other words there is NO religious persecution going on.

Although alot of the information in your posts makes sense, the statement quoted is simply not true. There are numerous recent cases where the brutality of Punjab Police and unfair treatment of Sikhs has been witnessed. For instance in 2011, Sikhs Dastar blatantly removed in Mohali, a peaceful protest in Gurdaspur resulted in the death of Jaspal Singh, whilst shiv bandar sena were allowed to wield their weapons unchallenged, and the Police are still picking up innocent and mainly Amritdhari Singhs under the pretence of 'Terrorism'.

The following video by Bhai Balpreet Singh (WSO Legal Counsel) may change your line of thinking. Yes the State is to blame and the State is autonomous in certain respects, but not where the welfare of Sikh Human Rights are concerned. The Centre is playing a role here and Badal is doing their dirty work.

The foundation of Khalistan has been laid and in 1986 the Sarbat Khalsa gathering passed a matta to establish a Sovereign Sikh State. What shape this state will take, who will control it, how it will run in the current climate is debatable. One thing is for sure, it cannot come about without a strong leader.

Unjanan ji,
You rightly mentioned that foundation of Khalistan was laid by "Sarbat Khalsa". Should we as an individuals shy away from accepting "Sarbat Khalsa" decision?

Khalistan is crucial so His True Saints can progress amongst Gurmukhs, instead of getting left behind...Waheguru!!