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Low caste in Sikhi?

Posted by ks 
Low caste in Sikhi?
August 21, 2012 01:55PM
VahegurooGKaKhalsa,
VahegurooGKiFateh,
Could I humbly request someone who has links with Damdani Taksal, or SGPC to bring this issue of Sikhs not being allowed into Gurdwara due to caste, by this fake sikh and his followers, please?
[www.sikh24.com]
Bhul chuk muaf
VahegurooGKaKhalsa,
VahegurooGKiFateh
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Re: Low caste in Sikhi?
August 21, 2012 05:45PM
ਸਚੀ ਤੇਰੀ ਕੁਦਰਤਿ ਸਚੇ ਪਾਤਿਸਾਹ ॥ True is Your almighty creative power, True King.
Vaheguroo rakha Punjab Sikh kaum nu
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Re: Low caste in Sikhi?
August 23, 2012 06:21PM
It's a trait in Punjabis that they can not seem to rid themselves of. Imaginary distinctions and putting unnecessary and meaningless "labels" on people is something Indians and Punjabis are known for. Punjabis are known to be VERY stereotypical and prejudiced as well.
So don't worry about it. It's something Punjabis do, their culture and heritage is founded and based on the above stated activities.

Jaspreet Singh
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Re: Low caste in Sikhi?
August 23, 2012 10:10PM
The problem with " low caste" Sikhs converting to Christianity is nothing new it has been going on since the British Raj, and it really has nothing to do with such people being mistreated due to their caste. Here in America I have seen many Punjabi people convert to Christianity. In America, Sikhs really dont believe in or practice caste the same way people in India yet there are so many Punjabis converting to Christianity? Why is this? The truth is Christianity has a stronger sense of community then we. One time in history we do had a strong a sense of community these were the days when bibek was taken more seriously. Now we really have no sense of identity . We do not have common practices such as bibek or bana ( blue color) that bind us together as a community. We have completely become worldy thinking and have lost ourselves in the world of maya; instead of becoming traders of naam we have become traders of false wealth and thus as a people we have become spritually bankrupt.

When Bhai Randhir Singh Ji was in jail he wrote Gurmat Bibek and half of the book was dedicated to the external rehat of Khalsa. In this section Bhai Sahib has emphaized Sarab Loh Bibek more then any other rehat. The chapter of Sarab Loh Bibek is the longest in this section and many of the chapters before the chapter on Sarab Loh bibek is related to bibek diet. Why did Bhai Sahib emphasize this rehat more then any other rehat. He rarely even mentions nitnem? Why is this the case? Bibek builds strong moral character, and a person builds a strong set of moral principles. People who keep high moral principles caste does not even become an issue. Bibek forces us to put SIkhi ahead of anything else. Bibek forces people to recite more and more bani. Bibek forces others to see the distinct lifestyle of Khalsa and encourages people to want to take Amrit. So why are these "low caste" people converting? The truth is they see nothing special about Sikhi because we have seperated ourselves from Sri Guru Jis rehat. Once we follow Sri Guru Jis rehat the Khalsa will become the spring season in kaljugs winter season , Khalsa will become the light in the tunnel of darkness, and thus those who have strayed from SIkhi will take shelter in the Khalsa.
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Re: Low caste in Sikhi?
August 24, 2012 05:36AM
It is unfortunate that so many people from Sikh background have converted to Christanity in the heart of Sikh land - Tarn Taran Sahib. What should be done of these "Boojhad" Babas who are hell bent on destroying Sikhi. The so called "Mazhabi" Sikhs were the backbone of Sikh struggle from Guru Sahib's times. Their bravery, courage and valour is second to none. In my Naanka village which falls in Siri Amritsar district, during my childhood there were very few Christians but now majority of the so called "Mazhabi" Sikhs have become Christians. In the morning they start their extremely non-spiritual Sangeet on loudspeaker. On our side, there is Gurbani Kirtan and on their side this very annoying, Bollywood kind of music comes from their church. It totally spoils your Amritvela and Rehraas Sahib time.

The Anpadh, Boojhad Baabay like the one in this story are doing great harm to Sikhi. The so called Dalits should be embraced by Sikhs and it is our major defeat if they are looking elsewhere for spirituality.

The disease of Jaat-Paat is causing major harm to Sikhi in Punjab. Guru Sahib Kirpa karan.

Kulbir Singh
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Re: Low caste in Sikhi?
August 24, 2012 10:18AM
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The truth is they see nothing special abo!ut Sikhi because we have seperated ourselves from Sri Guru Jis rehat.

Right on!
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Re: Low caste in Sikhi?
August 24, 2012 11:06AM
oh let's not forget near enough every baba, every parchark, kathvached,kirtania - wants to coem abroad for parchar and won't want to do it locally in panjab -- motive -- money -sad but true.
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Re: Low caste in Sikhi?
October 16, 2012 09:25AM
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The so called "Mazhabi" Sikhs were the backbone of Sikh struggle from Guru Sahib's times. Their bravery, courage and valour is second to none
Bhai Sahib jee can you please explain some more on this. I have read this elsewhere as well and am proud of our Ravidasi/Mazhabi Singhs who were fierce warriors. Please do let us know the names of brave Singh soorme from this background.

What has caused the caste cancer to ruin the fabric of the Sikh qaum in present times? We have the highest % of Dalits in Punjab, out of those some 31% or so are Sikhs, yet they face discrimination. Just now I read several articles/papers written by non-Sikhs who are bent on proving that "the bubble has burst", that Sikhi which claims to be free from caste is "no better". While they do mention that it is observed in a manner different from Hinduism, the sad fact is that it still exists in a different form, which is in no way justified.
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