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Ek Onkar Comes First in Hindu Texts. Confused ???

Posted by jaskirat 
Sangat Ji,

Daas was browsing through the PDL website and came across following hindu manuscripts and got confused.

So many questions are storming into my mind
1. Were these Hindu Texts written during the times of our Guru Jees or after that or before that.
2. Are these texts translated OR were originally written in Gurmukhi and they are actually in Ladivaar too.
3. Was Ladivaar the already popular style of writing these kind of texts even before Sikhism came to existence
4. There are keywords in these texts like “Swaya”, “Dohara”, “Chaupai”.
5. Why Ek Onkar is mixed with Ganeshaye Namah (usually in current time they use Om Ganeshaye Namah).
6. Finally I do not know what conclusion to draw. I am lost. But the fantastic thing is EK ONKAR comes first everywhere in these texts smiling smiley
7. Have a look at following Links/URLs

1. Bhagwat mahapuran ekasdesh sakand :This has starting with Ek Onkar Satgur Prasad.
[www.panjabdigilib.org]

2. Nirban Puran : This has starting with Ek Onkar Sat-Chit-Anand
[www.panjabdigilib.org]

3. Sidhant Rehsya : This has starting with Ek Onkar Satgur Prasad Sri Ganeshaye Namah
[www.panjabdigilib.org]

4. Panch Dasi : This has starting with Ek Onkar Swast Sri Ganeshaye Namah
[www.panjabdigilib.org]

5. Vedantic Granth : This has starting with Ek Onkar Sri Ganeshaye Namah Bhujang Parayat Channd
[www.panjabdigilib.org]

6. Alankar Mala : This has starting with Ek Onkar Sri Ganeshaye Namah (is in Hindi)
[www.panjabdigilib.org] (there is a Hindi Text in 2nd or 3rd Page).

7. Hanuman Natak : This has starting with Ek Onkar Satgur Prasad.
[www.panjabdigilib.org]

8. Dandak Ramayan : Here you can notice Ek Onkar Sri Ganeshaye Namah
[www.panjabdigilib.org]

Bhul Chuk Maaf.

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa.
Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh.
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I have seen the same as well whilst browsing through Manuscripts on Punjab Digital Library.

Very confusing to see Mangal of Ik Onkar Satgur Parsaad come before all these Hindu Texts.

One thing this proves is that even in other Texts Mangals always come first!
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These texts probably have been written by people from Sikh background or Hindus who got influenced by Sikhi. One thing is for sure that these texts have been written in the post Guru-Sahib period because the Manglacharan "Ik Oankaar" was introduced to the world by Siri Guru Nanak Dev jee Maharaj.

In olden days, there were a lot of Udaasi and Nirmala Deras where Sikhi was taught but a very strong emphasis was placed on Hindu texts e.g. Vedas, Puranas etc. So a Milgobha (mixture) came into being whereby the Hindu texts were taught and interpreted with some Sikhi influence but also unfortunately, Gurbani too was interpreted through the lenses of Vedic religion. The results have been very detrimental to Sikhi. Even Siri Jap jee Sahib, the whole of it, has been interpreted as conversation between the Sidhas and Guru Sahib, whereas there is no indication throughout Siri Jap jee Sahib that such was the case.

There are Shabads and Baanis that have been written as a result of conversation between Hindus, Jogis or Muslims but this does not mean that we should force such imagination on the root Baani like Siri Jap jee Sahib, that is central to Sikh philosophy. The whole of Manglacharan has been reduced to Galbaat between Sidhas and Guru Sahib. The Manglacharan as such has been interpreted just around Vedic philosophy whereas the truth of the matter is that Siri Jap jee Sahib and the Manglacharan is too lofty, superior and unreachable from the Vedic philosophy and the 3 Devtas of Hindus. Siri Jap jee Sahib, for the most part (save few pauris) should be interpreted independant of the Hindus and their texts, and their philosophy.

Coming back to the issue, these texts are mostly translations and not the original Sanskrit texts and these are written in Laridaar form because in olden days even ordinary letters were written in Laridaar format.

Kulbir Singh
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4. There are keywords in these texts like “Swaya”, “Dohara”, “Chaupai”.
These are all poetic styles that have been around before Guru Sahib's time. For example, the "Hanuman Chalisa," is a popular Hindu poem about Hanuman written in the Chaupai format.
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