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Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri

Posted by GurmanSingh 
Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 09, 2012 03:49PM
Daas has found 3 different versions to this line, in 3 different Gutka's
ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ, ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੇ
ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ ਨਮਸਤੰ ਸਨਾਨੇ (shiromani)
ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ, ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੰ (taksali)

Daas has been doing it as the third(taksali gutka) version, but reading the santhiya file today i came upon the first version.

Which is correct, and why?
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 09, 2012 04:13PM
Variation between spelling of third word "ਰੋਗੇ" also exists in some pothis/gutkas where it has been spelled as ਰੋਗੰ.
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 13, 2012 08:06AM
Good eye Bh Gurman Singh jee!

Please can someone shed some light on this. I tend to read this as ਇਸਨਾਨੰ too
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According to Bhai Joginder Singh Ji Talwara the proper pronunciation is
ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ ਨਮਸਤੰ ਸਨਾਨੇ
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 15, 2012 07:25AM
ਨਮੋ ਦਾਨ ਦਾਨੇ ਨਮੋ ਮਾਨ ਮਾਨੇ॥
ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੇ॥ 56॥


If you look at the preceding Pankiti, then it rhymes with the above Paath and not with "ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੰ" Paath. Daas has always been doing the above Paath but "ਨਮਸਤੰ ਸਨਾਨੇ" too seems to be correct.

Guru Sahib knows the best. Gurbani is Agam Agadh Bodh.

Kulbir Singh
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 15, 2012 08:07AM
I looked through 4 different Puratan Dasam Granth pothiaa. Here's what I found, I am now convinced it is ਇਸਨਾਨੰ. I also noted that there is a extra Kanna placed after Nanaa.







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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 15, 2012 01:20PM
Kulbir Singh Wrote:
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> ਨਮੋ ਦਾਨ ਦਾਨੇ ਨਮੋ
> ਮਾਨ ਮਾਨੇ॥
> ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ ਨਮਸਤੰ
> ਇਸਨਾਨੇ॥ 56॥
>
> If you look at the preceding Pankiti, then it
> rhymes with the above Paath and not with
> "ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੰ" Paath. Daas
> has always been doing the above Paath but
> "ਨਮਸਤੰ ਸਨਾਨੇ" too seems to be
> correct.
>
> Guru Sahib knows the best. Gurbani is Agam Agadh
> Bodh.
>
> Kulbir Singh


Bhai Sahib, where did you find the version that you do (ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੇ)
Also what is the difference in meaning between
ਨਮਸਤੰ ਸਨਾਨੇ and ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੇ
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 16, 2012 01:54PM
I feel that if the meaning of the Pangti is not changed, then it is ok to read it either way.
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 26, 2012 02:32AM
Kulbir Singh Wrote:
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> ਨਮੋ ਦਾਨ ਦਾਨੇ ਨਮੋ
> ਮਾਨ ਮਾਨੇ॥
> ਨਮੋ ਰੋਗ ਰੋਗੇ ਨਮਸਤੰ
> ਇਸਨਾਨੇ॥ 56॥
>
> If you look at the preceding Pankiti, then it
> rhymes
with the above Paath and not with
> "ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੰ" Paath. Daas
> has always been doing the above Paath but
> "ਨਮਸਤੰ ਸਨਾਨੇ" too seems to be
> correct.
>
> Guru Sahib knows the best. Gurbani is Agam Agadh
> Bodh.
>
> Kulbir Singh

It is not true that Pankiti will (or should) rhyme always. When we do not have correct Gyan we tend to look for easy solutions available. My Vote is for Taksali Santhiya as illustrated by DamDami Taksal. Rest Guru Sahib knows the best.
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
March 26, 2012 02:40AM
gsingh Wrote:
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> I feel that if the meaning of the Pangti is not
> changed, then it is ok to read it either way.


As per my understanding this is not ture. We should not read it this way or either way.
The most wonderful thing of Sri Jaap Sahib is that many Pangti repeats in many Pauris. But in each Pauri the meaning changes and the Gyan in it becomes different.
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Recently I was reading a book about Sri Dasam Granth and in the book they had a picture of an Ang from Amrit Bani Sri Jaap Sahib. The bir dates back to 1695 AD, and it records the pangti as

ਨਮਸਤੰ ਇਸਨਾਨੰ
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Re: Jaap Sahib 56th Pauri
June 03, 2012 05:33PM
As long as the meaning is the same, We are good and on the same wave length. I agree with JasKirat .

Do the ishnan of mind. How much and how Ishnaan it does (mind) and then what happens.after .............................................? That should be the discussion.

Please forgive me, if I offended any one.
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