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Is raam called Gurmukh In gurbani ?

Posted by harinder_singh 
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Bhai Gurcharanjit Singh Lamba has used the below shabad to call Raam a gurmukh.

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ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬਾਂਧਿਓ ਸੇਤੁ ਬਿਧਾਤੈ ॥
गुरमुखि बांधिओ सेतु बिधातै ॥
Gurmukẖ bāʼnḏẖi▫o seṯ biḏẖāṯai.
The Gurmukh is the bridge, built by the Architect of Destiny.

ਲੰਕਾ ਲੂਟੀ ਦੈਤ ਸੰਤਾਪੈ ॥
लंका लूटी दैत संतापै ॥
Lankā lūtī ḏaiṯ sanṯāpai.
The demons of passion which plundered Sri Lanka - the body - have been conquered.

ਰਾਮਚੰਦਿ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਅਹਿ ਰਾਵਣੁ ॥
रामचंदि मारिओ अहि रावणु ॥
Rāmcẖanḏ māri▫o ah rāvaṇ.
Ram Chand - the mind - has slaughtered Raawan - pride;

ਭੇਦੁ ਬਭੀਖਣ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਰਚਾਇਣੁ ॥
भेदु बभीखण गुरमुखि परचाइणु ॥
Bẖeḏ babẖīkẖaṇ gurmukẖ parcẖā▫iṇ.
the Gurmukh understands the secret revealed by Babheekhan.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਇਰਿ ਪਾਹਣ ਤਾਰੇ ॥
गुरमुखि साइरि पाहण तारे ॥
Gurmukẖ sā▫ir pāhaṇ ṯāre.
The Gurmukh carries even stones across the ocean.

ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਕੋਟਿ ਤੇਤੀਸ ਉਧਾਰੇ ॥੪੦॥
गुरमुखि कोटि तेतीस उधारे ॥४०॥
Gurmukẖ kot ṯeṯīs uḏẖāre. ||40||
The Gurmukh saves millions of people. ||40||
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I doubt it veer jee.
I think Gurbanee is trying to actually differ between what a gurmukh can do, and what Raam couldn't.

But then again, only guroo sahib knows a true gurmukh
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ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬਾਂਧਿਓ ਸੇਤੁ ਬਿਧਾਤੈ ॥
ਲੰਕਾ ਲੂਟੀ ਦੈਤ ਸੰਤਾਪੈ ॥
ਰਾਮਚੰਦਿ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਅਹਿ ਰਾਵਣੁ ॥
ਭੇਦੁ ਬਭੀਖਣ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਪਰਚਾਇਣੁ ॥
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਇਰਿ ਪਾਹਣ ਤਾਰੇ ॥
ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਕੋਟਿ ਤੇਤੀਸ ਉਧਾਰੇ ॥੪੦॥


I don't understand where in the above Pauri, Siri Raam Chander has been called a Gurmukh. Guru Sahib in the above Pauri has used the story of Raam Chander building bridge to Lanka in order to bring back his wife - Sita Devi. Just as Rama built the bridge over the ocean to bring back Sita from Lanka, the same way, Akal Purakh has built the "Gurmukh roopi bridge" to bring Jeev-Atma from this world. Rama and his army plundered Lanka and hurt the demons; same way, Gursikhs who follow Gurmat, plunder the kingdom of Maya and hurt internal demons e.g. Kaam, Krodh, Lobh etc. Rama killed great Raavan (Ah-Raavan means great king Raavan); same way, Gursikhs kill Haume roopi Raavan. The secret to killing Raavan was disclosed by the righteous Bibhikhan (Vibhushan) and in this case, Gurmukh's Updesh (Parchayan) was instrumental in killing Haume. Just as Rama using his spiritual power let stones swim on ocean, same way Guru Sahib's Updesh (Gurmat) allows Gursikhs to swim across. Gurmukh (Guru Sahib) has delivered countless from this world.

In the first Pankiti, the doer of the verb ਬਾਂਧਿਓ is ਬਿਧਾਤੈ (Akal Purakh) and not ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ. Bidhaata has built the Gurmukh-roopi Bridge for the Jeev Aatma to be delivered. The meaning of Gurmukh here is Gurmat and not a Gursikh.

At no place, Rama has been called Gurmukh here, because he was not a Gurmukh. He was a good man, with many spiritual powers but he was not a Gurmukh.

Kulbir Singh
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Kulbir Singh Wrote:
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> ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਬਾਂਧਿਓ
> ਸੇਤੁ ਬਿਧਾਤੈ ॥
> ਲੰਕਾ ਲੂਟੀ ਦੈਤ
> ਸੰਤਾਪੈ ॥
> ਰਾਮਚੰਦਿ ਮਾਰਿਓ ਅਹਿ
> ਰਾਵਣੁ ॥
> ਭੇਦੁ ਬਭੀਖਣ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ
> ਪਰਚਾਇਣੁ ॥
> ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਾਇਰਿ ਪਾਹਣ
> ਤਾਰੇ ॥
> ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਕੋਟਿ ਤੇਤੀਸ
> ਉਧਾਰੇ ॥੪੦॥
>
> I don't understand where in the above Pauri, Siri
> Raam Chander has been called a Gurmukh. Guru Sahib
> in the above Pauri has used the story of Raam
> Chander building bridge to Lanka in order to bring
> back his wife - Sita Devi. Just as Rama built the
> bridge over the ocean to bring back Sita from
> Lanka, the same way, Akal Purakh has built the
> "Gurmukh roopi bridge" to bring Jeev-Atma from
> this world. Rama and his army plundered Lanka and
> hurt the demons; same way, Gursikhs who follow
> Gurmat, plunder the kingdom of Maya and hurt
> internal demons e.g. Kaam, Krodh, Lobh etc. Rama
> killed great Raavan (Ah-Raavan means great king
> Raavan); same way, Gursikhs kill Haume roopi
> Raavan. The secret to killing Raavan was disclosed
> by the righteous Bibhikhan (Vibhushan) and in this
> case, Gurmukh's Updesh (Parchayan) was
> instrumental in killing Haume. Just as Rama using
> his spiritual power let stones swim on ocean, same
> way Guru Sahib's Updesh (Gurmat) allows Gursikhs
> to swim across. Gurmukh (Guru Sahib) has delivered
> countless from this world.
>
> In the first Pankiti, the doer of the verb
> ਬਾਂਧਿਓ is ਬਿਧਾਤੈ (Akal
> Purakh) and not ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ. Bidhaata
> has built the Gurmukh-roopi Bridge for the Jeev
> Aatma to be delivered. The meaning of Gurmukh here
> is Gurmat and not a Gursikh.
>
> At no place, Rama has been called Gurmukh here,
> because he was not a Gurmukh. He was a good man,
> with many spiritual powers but he was not a
> Gurmukh.
>
> Kulbir Singh

Thanks so much veerjee for explaining the shabad so well.
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Ram was subject to Kaal.

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ਜਿਤੇ ਰਾਮ ਸੇ ਕ੍ਰਿਸਨ ਹੁਇ ਬਿਸਨ ਆਏ ॥ ਤਿਤਿਓ ਕਾਲ ਖਾਪਿਓ ਨ ਤੇ ਕਾਲ ਘਾਏ ॥੨੮॥

On the other, a Gurmukh is not subject to Kaal.

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ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਮਰੈ ਨ ਕਾਲੁ ਨ ਖਾਏ ਗੁਰਮੁਖਿ ਸਚਿ ਸਮਾਵਣਿਆ ॥੨॥
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Rama as a king did expand his kingdom and ruled the people with four canons of politics, sam, dam, dand and bheda. He also religiously followed and upheld the Vedic rules of the caste system.

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ਬਹੁ ਬਿਧਿ ਕਰੋ ਰਾਜ ਕੋ ਸਾਜਾ ॥ ਦੇਸ ਦੇਸ ਕੇ ਜੀਤੇ ਰਾਜਾ ॥ ਸਾਮ ਦਾਮ ਅਰੁ ਦੰਡ ਸੁ ਭੇਦਾ ॥ ਜਿਹ ਬਿਧਿ ਹੁਤੀ ਸਾਸਨਾ ਬੇਦਾ ॥੮੩੭॥
बहु बिधि करो राज को साजा ॥ देस देस के जीते राजा ॥ साम दाम अरु दंड सु भेदा ॥ जिह बिधि हुती सासना बेदा ॥८३७॥
Performing his royal duties in many ways and practising Sama, Dama, Dand and Bhed and other methods of administration, Ram conquered other kings of many countries.837.

ਬਰਨ ਬਰਨ ਅਪੁਨੀ ਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਲਾਏ ॥ ਚਾਰ ਚਾਰ ਹੀ ਬਰਨ ਚਲਾਏ ॥ ਛਤ੍ਰੀ ਕਰੈਂ ਬਿੱਪ੍ਰ ਕੀ ਸੇਵਾ ॥ ਬੈਸ ਲਖੈ ਛੱਤ੍ਰੀ ਕਹ ਦੇਵਾ ॥੮੩੮॥
बरन बरन अपुनी क्रित लाए ॥ चार चार ही बरन चलाए ॥ छत्री करैं बि्प्र की सेवा ॥ बैस लखै छ्त्री कह देवा ॥८३८॥
He caused every caste to do its duties and set in motion Varnashram Dharma; Kshatriyas began to serve the Brahmin and the Vaishyas considered the Kshatriyas as gods.838.

ਸੂਦ੍ਰ ਸਭਨ ਕੀ ਸੇਵ ਕਮਾਵੈ ॥ ਜਹ ਕੋਈ ਕਹੈ ਤਹੀ ਵਹ ਧਾਵੈ ॥ ਜੈਸਕ ਹੁਤੀ ਬੇਦ ਸਾਸਨਾ ॥ ਨਿਕਸਾ ਤੈਸ ਰਾਮ ਕੀ ਰਸਨਾ ॥੮੩੯॥
सूद्र सभन की सेव कमावै ॥ जह कोई कहै तही वह धावै ॥ जैसक हुती बेद सासना ॥ निकसा तैस राम की रसना ॥८३९॥
The Shudras began to serve all and they went wherever they were sent; Ram always talked from his mouth about practicing administration according to Vedas.839.

Ram was castiest and killed a shudra for performing penance.

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ਹੁਤੋ ਏਕ ਸੂਦ੍ਰੰ ਦਿਸਾ ਉਤ੍ਰ ਮੱਧੰ ॥ ਝੁਲੈ ਕੂਪ ਮੱਧੰ ਪਰਿਯੋ ਅਉਧਿ ਮੁੱਖੰ ॥
हुतो एक सूद्रं दिसा उत्र म्धं ॥ झुलै कूप म्धं परियो अउधि मु्खं ॥
In the north-western direction a Shudra was hanging overturned in a well;

ਮਹਾਂ ਉਗ੍ਰ ਤੇਜਾ ਤਪਸਯਾਤ ਉਗ੍ਰੰ ॥ ਹਨਿਯੋ ਤਾਹਿ ਰਾਮੰ ਅਸੰ ਆਪਿ ਹੱਥੰ ॥੭੦੦॥
महां उग्र तेजा तपसयात उग्रं ॥ हनियो ताहि रामं असं आपि ह्थं ॥७००॥
He was performing a penance; Ram killed him with his own hand.700.
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