Re-pesh

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Someone I know wants to pesh in India, but he will be re-peshing. Below are his queries.
1) Who can I get him in touch with for amrit sinchars November-December? He also plans to pesh where sarbloh bibek rehit is given.Is there anyone he can approach? I also remember reading somewhere in this forum if there is no new abhlakhi amrit wont be prepared.

2) He wants to know what is the protocol, when he goes into amrit sinchar? What does he refer to Panj Piarey while talking to them?

3) He took amrit as a kid(not in Jatha), but as a teen cut his hair due to wrong sanggat. Later on, he went on to commit other kurehits also. But now, after several years wishes to return to Gurmat fold after realizing his mistakes. He assumes cutting his hair made him a patit already, whereby no more a Sikh back then.He asked, does he admit in front of Panj all of his misdeeds or only his first kurehit which was cutting hair ?

He doesn't come from a Gursikh family neither is there any sanggat of rehitwaan gursikh in his area, so he emailed daas. Please do reply.

anyone?!?!

1- question local sangat - where the amrit sanchar is held as per your requirements

2- refer to Panj as Guru roop Sangat jeeo and admit the kurehits and accept punishment given willingly

3. admit - all kurehits - would be right

1. In India, you can get Pesh at Bibeksar. You can talk to Jathedar Bhai Bakshish Singh jee, Bhai Nirmalbir Singh, Maliyaan wale Singhs or other Singhs from Amritsar Sahib area.

2. You can address the Punj Pyare as Sache Paatshah. Go inside, and first do Mathtek to Siri Guru Granth Sahib jee. Then keeping your eyes focused on Guru Sahib, you say Fateh. At that point they will ask you why you have come. Then humbly state your reason of coming.

3. You should tell them about all Bajjar Kurehits.

Kulbir Singh

Thank you ji, have passed the message to him.

he emailed me 2 more questions:

Is it ok for him to ask 5 Piareh questions during the amritsanchar to get clarification or remove his doubts?if so, when should he ask them questions?
He says he give his all to keep rehit, but wishes to request them to ardaas for him as he doesn't have any proper sangat, elder gurmukh to guide him so that he doesn't waver again, is it acceptable?

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Is it ok for him to ask 5 Piareh questions during the amritsanchar to get clarification or remove his doubts?if so, when should he ask them questions?

After he has stated is previous mistakes, he will most probably get asked by the Punj Pyare, if he has anything else to say. He can say it at that point.

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He says he give his all to keep rehit, but wishes to request them to ardaas for him as he doesn't have any proper sangat, elder gurmukh to guide him so that he doesn't waver again, is it acceptable?

Sure. There is nothing wrong in requesting the Punj Pyare to do Ardaas. Rest is up to them, whether to do Ardaas or not.

Guru Sahib knows better.

Kulbir Singh

guruvah Wrote:
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> he emailed me 2 more questions:
>
> Is it ok for him to ask 5 Piareh questions during
> the amritsanchar to get clarification or remove
> his doubts?if so, when should he ask them
> questions?

no problem

> He says he give his all to keep rehit, but wishes
> to request them to ardaas for him as he doesn't
> have any proper sangat, elder gurmukh to guide him
> so that he doesn't waver again, is it acceptable?


issue here seems to be of some sort of consistency - or he has fallen into some kind of habit/addiction and and can't come out of it- if that is what it is - i suggest him to try rehit especially mool mantar or Sukhmani sahib as much as possible for at least 40 days - see if the habit breaks - then go to thepanj for pesh most likely without questions.

In life whether it is exams whether it is work whether is SIKHE whether it is anything you have to remember the key is :

"If you fail to prepare then be prepared to fail" -- this is an absolute truth.

Your friend wants Sikhe so badly and is worried he may loose it and wants ardas from the panj --of course request it - but but but the key is
he has to do the hard work himself and prepare properly for amrit - not just willy nilly make a serious mistake and ask the panj - thinking all will
be ok -- the mind is much much more powerful - we have to tame the wild animal and train it for the preparation of Amrit - this can take days or even years for some or even life times - Sikhe is Sehaj MARG as mentioned by the famous Bhai Veer Singh jee - not a quick fix way of life.

apologies in advance for any errors - just my 2 cents -- please do feedback how it goes and approach other Gursikhs on the opinons mentioned here too.

Since you were asking about Nov & Dec.
Dass called in a Singh in amritsar today, Reansbhai+ Amrit Sachar at Bibeksar is at 27th of Nov. Sarabloh Bibek is made compulsory there, as its the maryada there & seva is only done by strict Sarblohis.In other amritsanchars at other smagams, its not made compulsory.
The reansbhai for Dec falls on 31 Dec, so there wont be reansbhai at Bibeksar. Instead, it will be held at Sree Akal Takht Sahib. Neither, will there be amritsinchar for Dec . (though there will be one at Ludhiana smagam).

Hope that that helped.

Chota veer