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I know a few who want to pesh, but no proper in such areas because Tat Gurmat minded elder or sangat is not present. A number are young, so traveling abroad is not within their reach.What do such youngsters do then?Quote
Bh. Kulbir SIngh jee
Secondly, if one wants some spiritual progress, then one must chant Naam after getting authorized to do so, from the true Guru. Now a days, one gets authority to Japp Naam, when one becomes Amritdhari. The whole purpose of becoming an Amritdhari is to obtain Naam and then chant Naam to meet Vaheguru.
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effort was done a few years ago, but it was of no use due to the apathy among gursikhs I talked to.Quote
Bh. Kulbir Singh
Chatrik jeeo, I am sure there are definitely more than 1 candidate in the country you live in. See if an Amrit Sinchaar can be arranged in your place.
maybe this will rekindle back some memories for you , taken by the pehredaar after the amrit sanchar...Quote
Bh. Kulbir Singh
There was a picture of Bhai Rajinder Singh jee riding a horse. Right there, I wished that he be one of the Punj Pyare when I get Pesh. Later on I forgot about this wish but soon when I got Pesh in Jatha, in a Samagam in Hamilton, Canada, I was pleasantly surprised that he was the Jathedar of Punj at that time. His beard was very long and almost touched ground. That was the only time, I had his Darshan.
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VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH
Kindly explain this terminology "pesh in Jatha". Are the Punj Pyare in the "Jatha" different than those of the Panth? Do they tell you at the end that you have become a member of the "Jatha" or do you become a Sikh of the Panth? Is the "Jatha-Peshi" something above and beyond what other "non-Jatha" Sikhs are subject to in front of th Punj Pyare? Is this insinuating that no other Jathebandi imparts the Gurmantar?
Khals Ji, my above near-rhetorical questions are there because the "Jatha" is a group of Sikhs who do Nirbaan Keertan together, not a separate entity from the Panth or in any way superior to a Gursikh from Nanaksar/Nihung Dal/Taksal/your average Joe Singh/Kaur following Panthic Maryada like me. Countless times, I have heard someone saying they were subject to a peshi of the "Jatha", which makes no sense. I could understand peshi for Naam Dhrir or Naam Daat or whatever analagous terminology being used, but such terms of "pesh in Jatha" serve to divide the Panth into factions, covertly insinuating that the "Jatha" Punj Pyare offer something that no others can or do, where there is hardly one person on this forum who will challenge the authority of the Punj Pyare, duly elected by the Sangat and Gurmat. Factually, this is also incaaurate, because even the Budha Dal Sundar Gutka and Khalsa Nitnem Gutka state that every Gursikh should get up at Amritvela and do Swas Swas Simran and the Jatha's own parchar states that this has been around since the time of the Das Patshahian.
Please take this into consideration before using the words "Pesh in Jatha" - it carries divisive connotations.
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we have the same name singh jeo,Quote
upkaar singh wrote:
narrow mindedness ?
>
> i see
>
> we all want our kids and younger generation to
> attend the best schools and do office jobs!
> we all want them to be top notch members of
> society
>
> a naujawaan who is born, raised and educated
> abroad is looked down upon, is he or she chooses
> to pursue something like truck driving, lets say
> for instance!
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> now that is narrow minded ness my friend. chatrik
> jees action came based solely on what these
> naujawans wanted, not something chatrik pressured
> them into doing, from what he has written.
>
> does not look like narrow minded ness to me.
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I know a few who want to pesh, but no proper in such areas because Tat Gurmat minded elder or sangat is not present. A number are young, so traveling abroad is not within their reach.What do such youngsters do then?
I personally requested to an AKJ unit to conduct an amrit sanchar seva once in a country where proper Tat Gurmat amrit sanchar never take place, as they did so in their continent. Answer was, 'We will only do so if there are at least 10 abhilakhis otherwise the $$$ spent would not be proportionate'.
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