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> VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH
>
> Bhai Sahib, Radha Soamis have an agenda and there
> is no use arguing with them. Next, they will say
> that nowhere does it say in the Guru Granth Sahib
> Ji about the Punj Kakkars or Bana or anything for
> that matter.
>
> Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh met their head and did
> the clock/watch (not sure which one, will say
> watch) hiding episode - Sawan S. was claiming
> knowledge of the three worlds, and when he closed
> his eyes, Bhai Sahib hid his watch. When Sawan S.
> opened his eyes, he tried to locate his watch and
> tried to blame a Singh who had come with Bhai
> Sahib of stealing the watch. Bhai Sahib said,
> think about it - do you really think the Singh
> took the watch? Sawan S. confirmed. Bhai Sahib
> took out the watch and showed him. Sawan S. was
> embarrassed and many of his dera left upon seeing
> Sawan S., the one who claimed to know what was
> happening in three worlds, as the liar he was.
>
> Alternatively, I think I have already told you
> what my Mama did in UK - the put up or shut up
> scenario. For the amusement of the Sangat, I will
> relay it. A radhasoami kept bugging him about
> similar arguments at a train station. He listened
> and listened and finally said, "Let's do this.
> You and I will jump on the train tracks. Whoever
> lives, his Guru is supreme". The radhasoami
> backed off and became somewhat silent.
>
> There are many cultists out there trying to uproot
> Sikhi for their own gains or the gains of others.
>
> One such fool:
>
> [
www.youtube.com]
>
> Another is the Satnami cult headed by Narinder
> Grewal, formerly from Canada and now in the UK,
> which kept doing parchar that Satnaam is the true
> Naam, not Vaheguru. He also claimed to have
> visited "Par-Brahm Khand", where the Gurus bowed
> down to him. Once the Sangat learned of his
> deeds, he was summarily thrashed, presented in
> front of the Punj Pyare elected from the Sangat
> and made to sign an affidavit that he was not a
> Sikh and he would cease to do parchar. He,
> however, has continued to spread his nonsense in
> the UK. His sidekick, Daasan Daas, aka. Surinder
> Multani, and I argued for months until he
> threatened to report me to the FBI, which I
> encouraged him to do.
>
> There are many others - what is the use of arguing
> with them. There are only two ways to deal with
> fools per Giani Pinderpal Singh:
>
> Preferred Option:
>
> ਮੂਰਖੈ ਨਾਲਿ ਨ ਲੁਝੀਐ
> ॥੧੯॥
> Moorakhai Naal N Lujheeai ||19||
> मूरखै नालि न लुझीऐ
> ॥१९॥
> Don't argue with fools. ||19||
> ਅਤੇ ਮੂਰਖ ਨਾਲ ਨਹੀਂ
> ਝਗੜਣਾ ਚਾਹੀਦਾ ॥੧੯॥
> ਲੁਝੀਐ = ਝਗੜੀਏ ॥੧੯॥
> (473)
>
> Otherwise...
>
> ਮੂਰਖ ਗੰਢੁ ਪਵੈ ਮੁਹਿ
> ਮਾਰ ॥
> Moorakh Gandt Pavai Muhi Maar ||
> मूरख गंढु पवै मुहि
> मार ॥
> The fool establishes his bonds only when he is
> slapped in the face.
> ਮੂੰਹ ਤੇ ਮਾਰ ਪਿਆਂ
> ਮੂਰਖ (ਦੇ ਮੂਰਖ-ਪੁਣੇ)
> ਨੂੰ ਰੋਕ ਪਾਂਦੀ ਹੈ।
> ਮੁਹਿ = ਮੂੰਹ ਉਤੇ। (143)
>
> You made your point and he refused to back down.
> The above two options are all that remain. Don't
> waste your time or kamai on these people. they
> have at least 36 branches all claiming to be the
> real one and are funded and sustained by the GOI.
Do you know if Harjit Lakhan, (now patit) also follows this Grewal character? Lakhan used to do very good parchar and wrote the book warrior princess but somewhere along the line his bad karma sprouted and he started following I think the same cult, and removed all kakaars/kes. Harjit now believes that only brahmgiani panj piyare can administer Amrit.
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਬਚਨਕਮਾਵਣੇਸਚਾਏਹੁਵੀਚਾਰੁ॥
The guy playing tabla in the singing video used to follow Baba Jaswant Singh (Ludhiane Vale), he must have jumped ship.