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The above picture was snapped from Gurdwara Uch Da Pir. Where the photocopy is kept.Quote
Bijla Singh
These same people claimed that the hukamnama was stolen in earlier 20th century. How did they find it again?
No it doesn't. Having said that analyzing it from another angle, reflecting on what is written in the hukamnama. We need to transport ourselves to that time.Quote
Bh. Kulbir Singh
does this Hukamnama Sahib mention that Guru Sahib became Uch da Pir?
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Guru Ji sent Bhai Bidhi Chand to Lahore to bring back the horses, Bhai Sahib stayed at Bhai Jiwan’s house in Lahore. Bhai sahib thought of a plan which would not involve any bloodshed. First he disguised himself has a grass cutter went to the fields and cut a bundle of fine grass. He then bought it to the gate of the fort at Lahore. Said Khan the horse keeper came out side and was pleased to see such fine grass. Bhai Bidhi Chand was then asked by Said Khan to distribute the grass to the horses, Bhai sahib taking the bundle of grass on his head inside the fort and gave it to the horses, when he did this he patted the horses on their back. He offered his services at the stable, Said Khan accepted. Bhai Bidhi Chand then came daily with grass and with the permission of Said Khan would give the grass to the horses and pat them while doing this. Said Khan saw the love Bidhi Chand had for the horses, when he would come to give them grass they would neigh at the very sight of Bidhi Chand, Said Khan then gave Bhai Sahib responsibility for arranging the delivery of grass for the horses without seeking permission from him (Said Khan). The river Ravi was touching the wall of the fort on one side. Bhai Bidhi Chand would throw one big stone in the river at night, when the watchmen heard the sound of the stone they were alarmed but when they looked towards the river they did not see anything. They thought that some animal was striking the wall and after this they did not care for that sound again. Bhai Bidhi Chand gained the trust of the whole staff , he offered them wine which made them unconscious or drunk. Bhai sahib searched and found the keys and untied Gulbagh and riding him, they jumped off the wall of the fort and landed in the river. After crossing the river Bhai Bidhi Chand reached Amritsar, the next day he reached Guru Ji and presented Gulbagh to Guru Ji, who was very pleased.
Dilbagh the remaining horse soon grew despondent and refused to eat. He obviously missed his companion. Soon the officials sought the help of a fortune teller who might be able to recover the 'stolen' horse. So disguising himself as a fortune teller, Bhai Bidhi Chand once again offered his services. He convinced the authorities that he had to re-enact a similar scenario, in order to give them the whereabouts of the missing steed. The baffled officials created a similar situation allowing Bhai Bidhi Chand to mount the remaining horse. He then yelled out that he was the former grass cutter, as he and the horse leaped over the low wall of the court yard to the Ravi River. Riding to Amritsar, then to Guru Ji’s stable the two horses were reunited.
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Singh jee,How about the incident of Bhai Bidhi Chand getting back Dilbagh and Gulbagh from the mughals?
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piyasi chatrik
While there is a possibility a historical incident can have its various distorted version/s. Rejecting it completely because it doesn't suite our interpretation because it raises doubts in us, doesn't seem right to me. Having said that, everyone is entitled for their own views.
dalsingh101 jee,
Zahoor Ahmed Khan is a decendant of Ghani Khan& Nabi Khan, who currently resides in Lahore, Pakistan. In his possession, he still has the handwritten hukamnama(among other relics) which Guru Sahib gave to the 2 muslim brothers for their selfless seva towards SatGuroo. The hukamnama says Ghani Khan& Nabi Khan should be respected by the panth.
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Bijla
Gurblias 10 by Sukha Singh was the first to mention this story and later on it developed further to make it fancier. For example, Singh Sagar mentions Guru Sahib keeping his hair open etc which are not found in Gurbilas. All Gurbilas says is that Singhs kept shouting "Uch Da Pir" on their way. This topic was discussed on this forum before. What happened was that Bhai Daya Singh (Pyara) disguised himself while delivering Zafarnama and Sikh historians after 90 years attributed the story to Guru Sahib. Read Historian's Approach to Guru Gobind Singh by Surjit Singh Gandhi and Raj Karega Khalsa by Sirdar Kapoor Singh. It should make everything clear. Guru Rakha
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