Please help better understanding How does following two differ / which of the following two types of Simran is more advance/ or are these same? a) Saas Saas b) Saas GiRaas Humbly Charan Singhby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Following is a phonetic wrestling in Gurmukhi/ Punjabi - When one moves across alphabets horizontally Cha (ਚ ), Chha (ਛ ), Jaa (ਜ ), Jhaa (ਝ ) it is only aspirated sounds / adds to first Cha (ਚ ) So is the interchanging sounds of Va (ਵ) and Ba (ਬ). Transliteration of poem 2012 sb kuchh 2013 bujh Nit nava niroaeaa tujh Tu samjhaaeaa Sijhi Pooratan Navtan Bhij Pachaanaeby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
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It seems , in my humble opinion perspective of 1978akj jio should be viewed in the light of a seriously ignored issue about making payments to Kirtania. Why should any Kirtania be paid at all - anywhere, if one can make one's living by other means- one is healthy to work until with physical challanges. Likely implicaiton of this is only Soorma Singh/Singhani or only exceptionally needy otherby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
For a ordinary Sikh in luv with the guru with no affiliations to anyone- these steps will greatly help Sikhi, on the spectrum of sikhi the practice of Niskaam seva,NibaNn kirtan , is at the core, how could it make akj a cult? Akj is a strong band on the sikhi spectrum. What lead akj has taken will strengthen Sikhi, help in keeping it away from maeaa when it turns mohini . Humblyby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
DhnN Guru's DhnN Guru's Sikhi DhnN Guru Piaarae !!by Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
"rsg11-- which planet are u from exactly?" Piaarae ns44 Jio - It seems inappropriate to undermine anyone. If rsg11 jio was unable to provide an appropriate reference to rsg11 jio 's submitted perspective- should participation be discouraged, what about some other dimensions reflected through rsg11 jio's post that were in line with Gurmat, particulary luv for the Guru. Finally, I submitted a rby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ਮੈਨਿਰਖਤਨਿਰਖਤਸਰੀਰੁਸਭੁਖੋਜਿਆਇਕੁਗੁਰਮੁਖਿਚਲਤੁਦਿਖਾਇਆ ॥ Should I get gurmat reflections from sangat on evolving perspective as stated above on November 27, 2012 05:49AM post? Humblyby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ਹਉ ਵਾਰੀ ਵੰਞਾ ਮਿਲ ਮੇਰੇ ਪ੍ਰੀਤਮ ਪਿਆਰੇ ਇਕੁ ਆਸ ਰਸਾਇ ਵਸਾਇ ਅਨੰਦ ਦਰਸਾਰੇ ਉਸਤਤ ਤੇਰੀ ਕਰਤਾ ਤੂਹੀ ਤੂਹੀ ਜਾਣੇ ਕਿਆ ਜਾਣੇ ਉਸਤਤ ਕਰਮਹੀਨ ਨੀਚ ਕੂੜਿਆਰੇ ਅਵਗਨ ਅਸੰਖ ਚਿਤ ਨਾ ਚਿਤਾby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
"Haume is our connection to this world and the moment this connection to this world falls, we immediately attain Vaheguru’s consciousness. " KSJio's link Following GurSbdo "ਕਹੁਨਾਨਕਹਉਮੈਭੀਤਿਗੁਰਿਖੋਈਤਉਦਇਆਰੁਬੀਠਲੋਪਾਇਓ ॥੪॥ " reflects on Haumae as summed up above - Haumae is very very thin veil (ਭਾਂਭੀਰੀby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Wahooo !!! Jio Thats a big gap between walk and talk - Knowing Truth and Practicing Truth. If one is unable to validate, support one's statement with Gurbani - one should be courageous 1) to take it back. 2) research more to explore one's evolving perspective - 3) there should be no room for getting into personal attack that leaves admin with a no choice but to cut. It seems heathy discussion isby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Guru Piaarae Jio - I concur with rsg11 jio, that there are milestones, indicators of progress- and Gurbani well measures and validate these during one's journey. Further these should not be labelled ( because : ਅਤਿਊਚਾਤਾਕਾਦਰਬਾਰਾ ॥). Gurbani along with Viakaran /Grammar seems an ocean for Research and severla other explorable directions. For sure - Sikhi is INSEPRAby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Many thanks for the kind words rsg11 jio, however it seems we are on different page. Silence is not a GurSikh would seek. Gurkirpa GurDarsn. Gur AngSang seems the ultimate objectives that one seeks from the Goroo. The most desirable for one in love with Guru may be following: ਨਿਕਟਿ ਆਨਿ ਪ੍ਰਿਅ ਸੇਜ ਧਰੀ ॥ Nikatt Aan Pria Saej Dhharee || ਕਾਣਿ ਕby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Veer Kulbir Singh Jio - Just talking a follow up to our conversation. You would agree that this life is a precious opportunity to connect. In larger interest of recommended Gurmat sharing - could you please guide and reflect on my approach "please tell us in simple terms and language how to do Simran in mind?" that might be have been placed tangential;if you think something is not publically shby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ਗੁਰ ਸੰਗਤਿ ਦੇ ਚਰਨਾ ਵਿਚ ਇਹ ਇਕ ਪੰਜਾਬੀ ਉਚਾਰਣ ਵਿਆਕਰਣ ਵਿਚ ਉਧਾਰਣਿ ਹੈ ਜੀ ਛੂਟਿ ਕਿਵ ਤਾਅ ਜੀਓ ਚਿ ਓਅੰ ਓਜੀ ਜੀਵਨੁ ਓਆ ਕਾਣਿ ਉਪਾਇ ਓਹਾ ਆ ਵਹਿ ਜਾਈ ਜੀਓ ਜੀਅ ਤਾਅ ਮਨੁ ਨby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Goroo Piaarae jio With sincere aplogy, shared this perspective to better evolve with Sangat's participation. In simple word, Simran to this one means - speaking using throat//vocal functionaries: Waheguroo Waheguroo , Waheguroo Waheguroo most lovingly, faithfully, surrendering to the ONE !! The Only One . Gurkirpa, practicing this - Simran Starts and seeking one gets connected , remains inby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Another prespective: This GurSbdo focuses on "Mn Mae Simran Karae" Method ਉਤੰਗੀਪੈਓਹਰੀਗਹਿਰੀਗੰਭੀਰੀ ॥ ਰੀ – “Ree” -This is external consciousness, it is like a ਉਤੰਗੀ = Oh Tan Tae Paaee/ਉਹ + ਤੰ+ਗੀ (tightly tied cover over Tn (subtle body))/ a tight cover on subtle body- ਪੈਓਹਰੀ = ਪੈ = (Pahe) Paaby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
"We need no GORA type election system or pardhans in Guru Ghars" this, billions of dollars worth, perspective needs very careful and indepth discusions on how these type of elections became part of Sikhi? Humblyby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Would be interested to know about Gursikhs who have Guru Saroop in /around Toronto and are open to allow Gur's sangat to Darn Paras the Guru, will be greatly apreciated.by Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
APeToEU - As per this one's evolving understanding "By dying in the Shabad, the mind becomes Immaculate" it is better to use the word Imbued/drenched/Coloured in GurSbd for "ਸਬਦਿ ਮਰੈ" instead of "By dying in the Shabad" because "ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਲੇ ਜਉ ਉਨਮਨਿ ਰਹੈ ". Mhla 1 clarifies this as ਸਾਕਤੁ ਲੋਭੀ ਇਹੁ ਮਨੁ ਮੂੜਾ ॥Sby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Guru Piaarae Jio One word answer to your questions "re incarnation - who goes thru it" seems "Manmukh" (goes through it) Further it seems, When one runs the life's marathon with the cardinals -ਇਹੀਤੇਰਾਅਉਸਰੁਇਹਤੇਰੀਬਾਰ ॥ Eihee Thaeraa Aousar Eih Thaeree Baar || One continues ਕਰਉਜਤਨਜੇਹੋਇਮਿਹਰਵਾਨਾ ॥Karo Jathan Jaeby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ਨਦਿਰ ਕਰੇ ਜੇ ਸਾਹਿਬਾ ਏਕੁ ਚਾਹੁਤ ਰਹ ਜਾਏ ਚਹੁੰਨ ਨੋ ਚਾਹਤ ਚਾਹੇ ਚਹੁ ਜੁਗੀ ਚਹੁ ਪਾਸਿਓ ਚਾਓ ਚਾਈ ਆਵਾ ਚਰਨ ਧੂਰ ਤੇਰੇ ਚਹੇਤੇਆ ਦੀ 'ਚ ਸੰਗਿਤ ਪਾਵਾ O the benevolent One please let grace dawn Only One desire remains That wantby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
With folded hands, if sangat allows to Pad Chhaed following GurSabd as per this one's evolving understanding. It may not follow some set rules. GurKirpa, seeking forgiveness from Sangat for any unintentional disappointments this may cause. Just sharing to better evolve in the company of Gursikhs. All comments are welcome and appreciated. Humbly C. ਗਉੜੀਕਬੀਰਜੀਕੀਨਾਲby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Its great Guru's Appar Kirpa Jeeo, Guru has blessed me Gur Sanagt -company of all of you -in luv with the Guru. Many thanks.by Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Goroo Piaaraeo I would like to aplogize and mention one more thing an missed insight from the poem that for me highlights the importance of DRriHna /Dhiyan/Abhiaas. Bhai Sahib jio enjoyed and inspires us through his writings to sharpen our consiousness and turn into Blissful Conciousness. When one reads the poem one may find that ONLY ONCE "ਆਪ ਹੀ ਧਿਆਨ ਹੈ" has come explicitlyby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Are these books available as soft copy Jio? "The words he uses are not used in today's spoken language." - Thats correct, however, Bhai Sahib Jio writing are Gurmat inspired so the roots may be easy to find to get closest meanings of those words. Thanks all for kind words.by Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Seeking forgiveness from Sangat Jio, first; please allow to share following as a translation - from the one - in luv with this beautiful poem. ਜੋ ਕਿਛ ਹੈ ਸੋ ਇਹ ਨਾਮ ਅਭਿਆਸ ਹੀ ਹੈ। Quintessential is Earning (Naam Kamaaee - NaaM Abheaas) NaaM ਇਹ ਅਭਿਆਸ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਗਿਆਨ ਹੈ, NaaM Earning is Absolute Knowledge (ਗਿby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
1) ਆਸਾ ਮਹਲਾ ੫ ਤਿਪਦੇ ॥ ਓਹਾ ਪ੍ਰੇਮ ਪਿਰੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ ਕਨਿਕ ਮਾਣਿਕ ਗਜ ਮੋਤੀਅਨ ਲਾਲਨ ਨਹ ਨਾਹ ਨਹੀ ॥੧॥ ਰਾਜ ਨ ਭਾਗ ਨ ਹੁਕਮ ਨ ਸਾਦਨ ॥ ਕਿਛੁ ਕਿਛੁ ਨ ਚਾਹੀ ॥੨॥ ਚਰਨਨ ਸਰਨਨ ਸੰਤਨ ਬੰਦਨby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
ਮੇਰੈਮਾਥੈਲਾਗੀਲੇਧੂਰਿਗੋਬਿੰਦਚਰਨਨਕੀ ॥ ਸੁਰਿਨਰਮੁਨਿਜਨਤਿਨਹੂਤੇਦੂਰਿ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥ humbly Charan Singhby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum
Thanks for sharing jio. Indeed it is - wondering, if I should have used the Pankti - if it is correct to use the Pankti, not sure, though reading the shared Bhai Sahib Bhai Gurdas JiO's vara - following reflections came up: it seems the ਖੜਾਉ - Kharaao are -Gur Kae Charan, and ਲੋਚਨ ਰਾਣੀ seems the Conscious/Chit that remains awake when ਰਾਜੇ- Mind goes to sleep, andby Charan Singh - Gurmat Discussion Forum