Kulbir Singh Wrote:
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> Sometimes we read Gurbani Panktitis that seem to
> be contradictory with each other. The Sikhs who
> have faith on Guru Sahib, never doubt Gurbani,
> even if they don’t understand it. As an example,
> if an electrician is unable to light a bulb, he
> never suspects that electricity has stopped
> lighting bulbs. He will make an effort to check
> the bulb and wiring to see that everything is fine
> or not. If everything is fine, then there is no
> doubt that the electricity would light the bulb.
>
> Same way, a Gursikh knows that no matter what,
> Gurbani is perfect and does not contain any
> contradiction. The deficiency lies in our
> understanding and not in Gurbani.
>
> Once Bhai Jattu, Bhai Bhanu, Bhai Teertha and Bhai
> Nihalu came to Siri Guru Arjun Dev jee and did
> benti, “O Sache Patshah, one of your Bachan
> is:”
>
> ਮਾਰੈ ਰਾਖੈ ਏਕੋ ਆਪਿ ॥
> ਮਾਨੁਖ ਕੈ ਕਿਛੁ ਨਾਹੀ
> ਹਾਥਿ ॥
>
> “And on the other hand your Bachan is”:
>
> ਜੈਸਾ ਬੀਜੈ ਸੋ ਲੁਣੈ
> ਕਰਮ ਇਹੁ ਖੇਤੁ ॥
> ਅਕਿਰਤਘਣਾ ਹਰਿ
> ਵਿਸਰਿਆ ਜੋਨੀ ਭਰਮੇਤੁ
> ॥4॥
>
> “If you are the one who makes us do Karma, then
> no matter what we do, how are we to be blamed? But
> if we are to suffer the results of our Karma, then
> we should surely be choosy about the Karma we do
> i.e. do our Karma after carefully thinking. Which
> of your Bachan should be obey?”
>
> Siri Hazoor replied saying that Gurbani contains
> Hukams for candidates of all spiritual states.
> Some Gursikhs are candidates of Karma, others are
> candidates of Upaashna and yet others are
> candidates of Gyaan. Different Gurbani Hukams
> apply to Gurmukhs of different levels.
>
I was wondering about the following statement
" Siri Hazoor replied saying that Gurbani contains
Hukams for candidates of all spiritual states.
Some Gursikhs are candidates of Karma, others are
candidates of Upaashna and yet others are
candidates of Gyaan"
Where does the question of interpretation arise? Many people interpret a specific pangti in stating that
GuruSahib is talking about we have the choice to make good decisions, while others will interpret the same pangti , and
say we have no choice its all in Guru Sahibs hands. Take the following verses of Sri Japji Sahib for example
ਪੁੰਨੀ ਪਾਪੀ ਆਖਣੁ ਨਾਹਿ ॥
ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਣਾ ਲਿਖਿ ਲੈ ਜਾਹੁ ॥
ਆਪੇ ਬੀਜਿ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਖਾਹੁ ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਆਵਹੁ ਜਾਹੁ ॥੨੦॥
Some will say in these verses Guru Sahib is stating
Dont not label anyone as good or bad. What ever they do becomes part of their lekht ( karma).
What ever they sow they shall reap. Through his hukum people come and go.
Meaning that we shouldnt regard a person who is doing paap as a paapi because he can still do good and become a saint and vice versa we shouldnt call someone a sant because they can also do bad as we have seen many examples. Meaning Punee and Paapi is a vasta which one reaches according to their actions.
There are other people who interpret the above verses in a completely different light.
ਪੁੰਨੀ ਪਾਪੀ ਆਖਣੁ ਨਾਹਿ ॥
ਕਰਿ ਕਰਿ ਕਰਣਾ ਲਿਖਿ ਲੈ ਜਾਹੁ ॥
ਆਪੇ ਬੀਜਿ ਆਪੇ ਹੀ ਖਾਹੁ ॥
ਨਾਨਕ ਹੁਕਮੀ ਆਵਹੁ ਜਾਹੁ ॥੨੦॥
Some will say in these verses Guru Sahib is stating
Oh WaaheGuru! Do not take into consideration ( speak of) our vices or virtues. As mere actorrs we act according to your written script. You yourself are the planter and you yourself are the consumer. Through your Hukum we come and go.
meaning ones actions are irrelevant; only through Gurus grace/his Hukum can one escape coming and going.
Then there are people who state Guru Sahib is stating one cannot speak of how many virtuous and bad people there are who are caught in trigun - the affairs of reaping and sowing ( field of karma), and the use the previous pauris as an example.
So can each pangi have a different meaning for each candidate, because I always believed each Hukum has a single meaning we all just interpret each hukum according to our understanding?