Can an amritdhari without amritvela be called bibeki?

I want to know if there is an amrithdhari who has kept food bibek and eats food from only amritdharis but does not wake up at amritvela, can such an amritdhari be called bibeki ???

such a amritdhari ..we cant call him even sikh ..bibek ta door di gal a..
amritvela is root of sikhi..if we cut root ,then there is no tree of sikhi...

|| Gur Satgur Ka Jo Sikh Akhai So Bhalke Uth Har Naam dhiaavai ||

|| He who calls himself the disciple of the Satguru must wake up early in the morning (three hours before sunrise) and meditate on the Divine name. ||

Guru has already answered your question with this shabad.

I haven't yet been blessed to Chack Amrit at the moment; however, from what I've heard from some Gurmukhs there are various types of Bibek, including with food is to control your thoughts, speech, actions and even your 5 senses to satisfy Guru Sahib.

Thanks for all the replies.

Has Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Jee written anything about this ??

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Those who don't have Amritvela are not Bibeki Sikhs

Original Text: ਫਰੀਦਾ ਪਿਛਲ ਰਾਤਿ ਨ ਜਾਗਿਓਹਿ ਜੀਵਦੜੋ ਮੁਇਓਹਿ ॥ ਜੇ ਤੈ ਰਬੁ ਵਿਸਾਰਿਆ ਤ ਰਬਿ ਨ ਵਿਸਰਿਓਹਿ ॥107॥

ਇਹ ਪਿਛਲੀ ਰਾਤਿ ਨਾ ਜਾਗਣ ਵਾਲਿਆਂ ਨੂੰ ਧ੍ਰਿਗ ਜੀਵਨ ਦੀ ਮਿਰਤਕ ਸਮਾਨ ਵਾਲੇ ਹੋਣ ਦੀ ਲਾਅਨਤ ਪਾਕੇ ਮਾਨੋ ਪਿਛਲੀ ਰਾਤ ਜਾਗਣ ਦੀ ਪਾਬੰਦੀ ਦਾ ਅਤ ਜ਼ਰੂਰੀ ਹੁਕਮ ਬੜੀ ਕਰੜਾਈ ਨਾਲ ਦ੍ਰਿੜਾਇਆ ਗਿਆ ਹੈ। ਸੋ ਜੋ ਸਵਾ ਪਹਿਰ ਰਾਤ ਰਹਿੰਦੀ ਅਥਵਾ ਪਿਛਲੀ ਰਾਤ “ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰਿ ਸਬਾਹ ਕੈ” ਨਿੰਦਰਾ ਤੋਂ ਜਾਗ ਕੇ ਉਠਣ ਦਾ ਉਦਮ ਉਪਰਾਲਾ ਨਹੀਂ ਕਰਦਾ ਅਥਵਾ ਜਿਸ ਨੂੰ ਨਿਤਾਪ੍ਰਤਿ, ਨਿਯਮ ਅਨੁਸਾਰ ਇਸ ਬਿਧਿ ਬਲ ਧਾਰਕੇ (ਅਰਥਾਤ ਉਦਮੀ ਬਣਕੇ) ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੇ ਉਠਣ ਦਾ ਚਾਉ ਨਹੀਂ ਉਪਜਦਾ, ਉਹ ਗੁਰੂ ਕੇ ਬਚਨ ਪਾਲਣ ਕਮਾਵਣਹਾਰਾ ਗੁਰੂ ਕੀ ਹਦਾਇਤ ਮੰਨਣਹਾਰਾ ਸਚਿਆਰਾ ਸਿਖ ਬਿਬੇਕੀ ਨਹੀਂ। ਬਿਬੇਕੀ ਸਿਖ ਸੋਈ ਹੈ ਜੋ ਇਸ ਬਚਨ ਰੂਪੀ ਹੁਕਮ ਹਦਾਇਤ ਨੂੰ ਕਮਾਵੇ ਅਰਥਾਤ ਸੱਚੀ ਭੈ ਭਾਵਨੀ ਸਹਿਤ ਨਿਤਾਪ੍ਰਤਿ ਸਵਾ ਪਹਿਰ ਰਾਤ ਰਹਿੰਦੀ ਉਠਣ (ਜਾਗਣ) ਦਾ ਉਦਮ ਬਲ ਧਾਰੇ ਤੇ ਪਿਛਲੇ ਪਹਿਰ ਵਾਲੀ ਰਾਤ ਰੂਪੀ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਵੇਲੇ ਦਾ ਸਾਵਧਾਨਤਾ ਸਹਿਤ ਆਨੰਦ ਮਾਣੇ। (Gurmat Bibek, page 99)

Humble Translation: This Hukam, serves as a curse of being a corpse (dead body), on those people who don’t get up at the last part of the night and in this way this Hukam serves as a very strict order on the restriction of getting up at the last part of the night. Therefore, one who does not get up 3.75 hours night-remaining i.e. who does not do the effort to wake up from his sleep at the last part of the night - “ਚਉਥੈ ਪਹਰਿ ਸਬਾਹ ਕੈ” – or who does not get up at Amritvela with enthusiasm or burning-desire, such person cannot be classified as a Hukam-obeying, truthful Bibeki Sikh. Bibeki Sikh is only such person who obeys this Bachan or Hukam i.e. one who everyday makes an earnest effort to getup with true fear and love, at 3.75 hours night-remaining and with alertness enjoys (derives Anand) the Amritvela or last part of the night.

Vichaar: This passage from Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee’s book Gurmat Bibek is very important for the true seekers of Vaheguru. Bhai Sahib unequivocally has declared that one who does not get up 3.75 hours before sunrise, cannot be classified as a true Bibeki Sikh. Bhai Sahib has not mentioned 2 hours before or 1 hour before sunrise but has written that a Sikh must get up 3.75 hours (Sava Pehar) before sunrise. This should be a wakeup call for all of us who are taking it easy as far as Amritela is concerned. We must strive to get up around 2.15 am or so. Bhai Jagtar Singh used to say that a Bibeki Gursikh must getup by 2:30am, the latest.

In olden days, Gursikhs used to get up even earlier than this because they used to have to go to wells or rivers to do Ishnaan. Siri Guru Amardaas jee used to travel so many miles in the morning to river Beas to bring Ishnaan water for Siri Guru Angad Dev jee. Today, we have so many facilities right in our homes and we still don't have good Amritvelas. We can do Ishnaan right in our homes that are well insulated against extreme heat or cold but we become lazy at Amritvela. We would be classified as Akritghan (ungrateful) if we don’t get up at 3.75 hours night-remaining, to do Gurmat Ishnaan and to engage in Naam Abhyaas till sunrise. May Guru Sahib enable us to avoid the curse of being classified as a corpse (dead body), for not getting up at the beginning of Amritvela.

Bhul Chuk dee Maafi jee.

Daas,
Kulbir Singh

Here is a scientific explanation as well.

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What about if someone works night shifts?

Amritvela is very important
Without amritvela is half bibek