Panthic Singhs Humiliate " Heretic Dhunda"

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It's a great sewa by Panthic.org and also a well written article.
Don't understand why he still has supporters, despite the overwhelming proof that this guy is just another bob or john.

In absence of audio/video minutes I believe the transcript of this meeting to be true word by word. Hence it clearly indicate that this so called 'Prof.' has no ground for his anti Naam-Simran and Dasam Baani parchaar. Such heretics can be handled best by disciplined debates like this one. Daas watched another QA video with him recorded at different Gurudwara by different group. To me that meeting was handled so poorly by members sitting opposite to Dhunda and ended being giving more fuel to do koorh parchaar.

I hope good out coming dialogue would continue and Panth will unite on Gurmat sooner than later.

With Regards,
Jasjit Singh

Good work by CA Singhs. This is exactly what needs to be done i.e. refute their claims through face to face Vichaar.

Sikh Missionary College has been on the forefronts preaching and distributing copies of the SGPC Rehit Maryada and it's state clearly in this Maryada that a Sikh is to do Naam Simran through Naam Gurmantr.

Professor Sahib Singh jee the Pitaamah of this college strongly believed in the efficacy of Naam Simran and even Giani Harbhajan Singh the later scholars were very Panthik people but the ones after 1995 or so have started preaching against the very foundations of Sikhi.

It's good to desist people from superstitions and rituals but Naam Simran is not a ritual or a superstition but the only reality in this false world. It's unfortunate that preachers who had great potential to serve the Panth are actually preaching against the fundamentals of Sikhi. Guru Sahib Sumat Bakshan.

Kulbir Singh

I don't know why but Jatha Singhs are very good at countering the Kala Afghanis. This is all Guru Jee's kirpa.

giani harbhajan singh became a big turncoat and is one of the main persons for the present day mess these missionaries have created.
He is the one who roped in few govt officials like daljit singh, gurtej singh etc and lobbied against dasam bani after 1987

the problem is that they are slippery and do not agree to have a dialogue. It was a miracle that dhunhda was persuaded to go for this.
Still he made organizers to accept his conditional participation and that is no video will be taken.

this is their main fear that event should not be videocast. few years back we had a chat with veer bhupinder singh when he came to speak
at fremont gurudwara.Condition was no video.finally he was not allowed to speak as he failed to convince sangat about his gurmat views.

the matter of fact is that these missionary schools do not have their syllabus approved by sgpc and they are taught not to accept dasam bani.
In these schools there is no practical session on naam simran which should be a daily morning routine of any gursikh. they are given different definition of this concept.

In punjab they do not have any takers of their ideology.it is internet and gullible sikhs abroad who are making them popular.the sooner this shop of lies is closed better it is for sikhs. In fact they do not qualify to be sikhs as their interpretation of gurbani is totally wrong.

He is in dashmesh darbar surrey now.My relative wanted a video to lobby against him with management but as there was none i sent this article of panthic.org. THese gurudwaras such as dashmesh darbar do this for crowd pulling to make cash. love for sikhi is no more.

What Das as observed that these people use some of the social problems in Punjab and World as their base argument in their prachar. Which is a very easy thing to do and people generally agree with them on those problems (any person with a bit of common sense and conscience will do). For example every one know alcohol, drugs, infanticide are big social issues at the moment and whoever speaks on these issues people generally support him/her.

But then using that approval of people or support of people they start attacking Sikh rehat maryada and other Banis, Sikh history. And some gullible people start believing them like they did on social issues.

People like him are very conniving and dangerous. They exactly know how to use and manipulate ever existing social and cultural problems as their main tool to spread their anti-gurmat prachar

Bul Chuk Maff

KamJSingh Wrote:
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> What Das as observed that these people use some of
> the social problems in Punjab and World as their
> base argument in their prachar. Which is a very
> easy thing to do and people generally agree with
> them on those problems (any person with a bit of
> common sense and conscience will do). For example
> every one know alcohol, drugs, infanticide are big
> social issues at the moment and whoever speaks on
> these issues people generally support him/her.
>
> But then using that approval of people or support
> of people they start attacking Sikh rehat maryada
> and other Banis, Sikh history. And some gullible
> people start believing them like they did on
> social issues.
>
> People like him are very conniving and dangerous.
> They exactly know how to use and manipulate ever
> existing social and cultural problems as their
> main tool to spread their anti-gurmat prachar
>
> Bul Chuk Maff

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you are right on dot.in 1960s of punjab communists used to propagate against sikhism by saying what is the use
of sacred pool of harmandir sahib.There was food shortage in india those years and commies would say sacred
pool should be used to plant rice so that some people could be fed.

These missionaries are also communists ( non believers in God) and they use same tricks to create faithlessness
among us.the difference here is they sport gatras from outside which is a tool of deception.they are taught in their
schools not to believe in dasam bani.many will be surprised that they do not believe in

1 Existence of soul

2 reincarnation

3 karmic effects

4Naam simran

5 waheguru as gurumantra

they are a present day evil among us and our leadership is oblivious of the damage they are causing to our religion.

Thanks Inder Singh Ji.

I have never seen these people providing solutions for these problems either because deep in their heart they know what the solution is, but the same solution will also get rid of their koor prachar too.
That solution is : Singh Sajo (Become a Singh), Amrit Chako (Get baptised by Panj ),Rehat Rakho(Follow the sikh code of conduct), Naam Jappo(Do Simran, Vand Chako (Share).

There is no other solution apart from Sikhi. When you decide to beocme a Singh these bad things automatically get out of your life and you also learn to live in the bhana of Maharaj.

But I have never seen these impostors inspiring people towards Amrit.

Instead of inspiring people to become sikhs and take Amrit these people try to raise these type of issues and create doubt in people's mind. People need to understand - If Amrit goes then Sikhi goes too and these people's target is just that. First they created doubt about Dasam Granth, then they moved on to specific Banis and then they started targeting Amrit Sanchar Banis (Like Jaap Sahib, Sawaye and Chaupai Sahib).

Bhul Chuk Maaf

Veer Kulbir Singh Ji, as you say that Prof Sahib Singh Ji was related with Sikh Missionary College, please do confirm it. Also that, who is Giani Harbhajan Singh, you talked about?

bhai sahib singh was hindu by birth who embraced sikhism at young age. he came from narowal area of dist sialkot. he was dharmic teacher
at khalsa collegiate school amritsar in 1950s. Two of my cousins were his students.

After tragic incidents of nankana sahib shrimoani committee opened its own missionary school at amritsar called shaheed sikh missionary college.prof sahib singh was its principal also for sometime.this missionary college has no connection with other missionary shops at ludhiana that are in private hands.

principal harbhajan singh was also principal of shaheed sikh missioanry college at amritsar.he became a nastic in his later life and was condemning dasam bani even though he had written books earlier praising dasam bani.

his portrait is there in central museum.When we had first international dasam granth seminar at sacramento,ca in 2008, one of the resolutions was to remove this photo because of his blasphemic activities.

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In another resolution passed on the occasion, Institute of Sikh Studies, Chandigarh was reminded that their website and books contain anti-Sri Dasam Granth writings from Principal Harbhjan Singh, S. Daljeet Singh, Dr. Jasbir Singh Mann etc. In view of the Akal Takhat's diktat these writings should be removed and withdrawn immediately.