Reposting lost messages:Sukhdeep Singh [ PM ]
Re: Panthic Ekta
January 27, 2012 09:03PM
Baba Raam Singh Ji was a great Panthic Gurmukh. If not more stricter his rehni behni was almost indentical to Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji. His life was strictly in service towards the panth. In a letter to his associates, he states there is no other Guru besides Guru Granth Sahib Ji. He never once claimed gurguddi nor did he ever create a cult following like the modern day Namdharis. He always told his associates to serve and follow the panth. WHen doing Gurmat parchar these are the things he taught.
1) While sleeping, standing, sitting meditate on Gods name.
2) Wake up for AMrit Vela and do Ishnaan, and Nitnem
* Besides mandatory 7 banis his nitnem included Asa Di Vaar, Sukhmani Sahib, Aarti and many banis from Sri Dasam Granth
3)Do not eat or drink from a leather bowl
47 ) Anand Karaj should be according to Gurus Maryada
5) Do not sell daughter or give dowry
6)Every month donate money for the making of degh
7)Besides other Gursikhs do not eat or drink from anyone else
8)Do not serve or consume any intoxicants
9)Make an honest living
10) do not lie
11)Do not engage any extra martial relations
12) Be shasterdhari at all times and keep a small kirpan in your dastar
13) Love and protect other Gursikhs
Like Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir Singh Ji, Baba Ji spend many years of his life life in jail due to his panthic contributions. He was exiled to burma and died, and after his death his assocaites created a cult following making him out to be a guru despite Baba Jis clear order not to follow any Guru but Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji. People make rumors about Baba Jis life and said he did things like practice havan. These rumors are untrue. Many anti-panthic figures always try to defame Gurmukhs who lived their life strictly according to Gurmat. The same way people claim Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji was an agent of the British. Such claims are not only foolish but are simply irrational.
One important rehat Baba Ji emphaized was the serving of langar by Gursikhs who live according to the principles of GUrmat. The rehat of Bibek diet and amrit vela sangat rehat are the two rehat which are going to unite the panth and make it stronger. May Guru Sahib inspire us to live a life obligated to the degh ( Sarab loh kettle) and teg ( kirpan) and not any person or group which is the true principle behind Bibek. May Guru Sahib inspire to live a life like those GUrmukhs who lived strictly according to Gurmat and served the panth with their mind, body, and wealth.
Sukhdeep Singh [ PM ]
Re: Panthic Ekta
January 28, 2012 11:57AM
The revival of Naam Abhyiaas, Gurbani kirtan, Sarab Loh Bibek, and strict vegetarianism in the British Raj is often attributed to Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji. However, historically speaking the propagation of these rehats was first propagated by Baba Raam Singh Ji who was born more then half century before Bhai Sahib. Baba Ji did massive amounts of Naam Abhyiaas. He always kept a mala with him at all times. Because of his emphasis on Naam his associated eventually became known as the NaamDhari SIkhs and Kukey.
Baba Ji had strong gumat principles and kept alive these oral traditions of Gurmat Maryada . He would never propagate Gurmat without the supreme guidance of Panj Pyaarey. When propogating Gurbani Kirtan in Punjab he would send raagi jathebandis to various places of Punjab. The screening, and sending of these numerous jathebandi were managed and organized by 6 Singhs which included Bhai Kahn SIngh Nabha who later became a pioneer of the SIngh Sabha Movement.
In regards to Sarab Loh Bibek and Vegetarian diet, Baba Ji and his associates kept an extremely strict pehra on their sarab loh batey. They would not go anywhere without their batey to the extent that it was almost like a kakkar to them. They only ate from other like minded individuals who had staunch beliefs in Gurmat. Such strictness secluded them from the general sangat who overly assimilated and even Gursikhs like Bhai Kahn SIngh scolded them for following Sarab Loh BIbek. Yet they still kept firm in roti beti da sanjh rehat. They never took any job positions related to the British Raj, and boycott all material goods from the British raj. Everything they ate was home grown, and everything they made was hand made. Talk about taking Bibek to the next level They lived and breathed Khalsa Maryada with each and every breath.
Baba Ji was eventually exiled into a far off place ( Burma) because of his unconformity and anti assimilation sentiments. Due to the long distance of seperation he was unable to provide panthic leadership to his associates. They eventually became disillusioned and started to treat the son of Baba Ji as a Guru. They created their own Rehat Maryada which became completey different then the panth. This was the misfortune of Baba Ji not writing books on Gurmat Maryada. If he would have his associated could of learned from this books at a private level and adopted these teachings in on an individual level and still follow panthic maryada. This is the great thing about Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji. He continued the oral traditions of Khalsa Maryada through is personal example and he propagated Gurmat through his books. For this reason no person can ever instiutionalize his teachings as a seperate maryada from the panth. All we can do is learn from kamaee waley SInghs on an individual level and still work for the upliftment of the GUrus family, the panth.
ਸੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਸਖਾ ਬੰਧਪੁ ਹੈ ਭਾਈ ਜਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਭਾਣੇ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਵੈ ॥
Sukhdeep Singh [ PM ]
Re: Panthic Ekta
January 28, 2012 02:58PM
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Everything they ate was home grown, and everything they made was hand made. Talk about taking Bibek to the next level hot smiley They lived and breathed Khalsa Maryada with each and every breath.
Baba Ji was eventually exiled into a far off place ( Burma) because of his unconformity and anti assimilation sentiments. Due to the long distance of seperation he was unable to provide panthic leadership to his associates. They eventually became disillusioned and started to treat the son of Baba Ji as a Guru. They created their own Rehat Maryada which became completey different then the panth. This was the misfortune of Baba Ji not writing books on Gurmat Maryada. If he would have his associated could of learned from this books at a private level and adopted these teachings in on an individual level and still follow panthic maryada. This is the great thing about Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji. He continued the oral traditions of Khalsa Maryada through is personal example and he propagated Gurmat through his books. For this reason no person can ever instiutionalize his teachings as a seperate maryada from the panth.
I made many spelling mistakes I meant to say.
Everything they ate was home grown, and everything they WORE was hand made. Talk about taking Bibek to the next level hot smiley They lived and breathed Khalsa Maryada with each and every breath.
Baba Ji was eventually exiled into a far off place ( Burma) because of his unconformity and anti assimilation sentiments. Due to the long distance of seperation he was unable to provide panthic leadership to his associates. They eventually became disillusioned and started to treat the son of Baba Ji as a Guru. They created their own Rehat Maryada which became completey different then the panth. This was the misfortune of Baba Ji not writing books on Gurmat Maryada. If he would have documented events and teachings then his associates could of learned from this books at a private level and but still follow panthic maryada. This is the great thing about Bhai Sahib Bhai Randhir SIngh Ji. He continued the oral traditions of Khalsa Maryada through his own personal example, and he propagated Gurmat through his books. For this reason no person can ever instiutionalize his Bhai Sahibs teachings as a seperate maryada from the panth. All we can do is learn from kamaee waley SInghs on an individual level and still work for the upliftment of the GUrus family, the panth.
ਸੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਸਖਾ ਬੰਧਪੁ ਹੈ ਭਾਈ ਜਿ ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਭਾਣੇ ਵਿਚਿ ਆਵੈ ॥
Kulbir Singh [ PM ]
Re: Panthic Ekta
January 30, 2012 06:44AM
No doubt, Baba Raam Singh jee was an amazing Gursikh. The image of Baba jee that is propagated by the current Naamdharis, is totally contrary to what he really was. The letters that he wrote to his followers from Burma jail are great Gurmat literature because they contain principles of Gurmat including Naam, Amritvela and Bibek. He mentions again and again in these letters that he is just a humble Sikh and that only Siri Guru Granth Sahib jee is the Guru.
It is also said that he kept Sarbloh Bibek very strictly and used to wear Blue but now his followers wear all-White and even show him wearing White. He forbid all Bibiyaan from wearing Salwars because Salwar is an Islamic dress. To this day the Naamdhari women don't have Pauncha on the bottom of their Pajamis but now their Pajaamis have become more like Salwars.
Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee has written very highly of not only Baba Raam Singh jee but also about Baba Balak Singh Hazro who the current Naamdharis claim to be their 11th Guru and to whom they claim that Siri Guru Gobind Singh jee gave Gurta-Gaddi to. Bhai Sahib has written that Baba Balak Singh Hazro never gave Naam to anyone on his own and he always organized Amrit Sinchaars to give Naam through the Punj Pyare. In one of such Amrit Sinchaar Samagams, Baba Raam Singh who was a young soldier in the army of Maharaja Ranjit Singh, received Amrit and Naam.
Guru Sahib Kirpa Karan.
Kulbir Singh
Baask [ PM ]
Re: Panthic Ekta
January 30, 2012 06:51AM
Panthik Ektaa can only happen if we all follow the same Rehat Maryada and harbor the same beliefs and values.
Differences have only occured because manmat has entered the Panth.
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ਜਿਨਿ ਬਾਸਕੁ ਨੇਤ੍ਰੈ ਘਤਿਆ ਕਰਿ ਨੇਹੀ ਤਾਣੁ || ਜਿਨਿ ਸਮੁੰਦੁ ਵਿਰੋਲਿਆ ਕਰਿ ਮੇਰੁ ਮਧਾਣੁ ||
He took the thousand-headed serpent as his churning string,
and with the force of devotional love, he churned the ocean
of the world with his churning stick, the Sumayr mountain.
Sukhdeep Singh [ PM ]
Re: Panthic Ekta
January 30, 2012 11:44AM
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He forbid all Bibiyaan from wearing Salwars because Salwar is an Islamic dress. To this day the Naamdhari women don't have Pauncha on the bottom of their Pajamis but now their Pajaamis have become more like Salwars.
I also forgot to share during AMrit Sanchars organized by his jatha he would not give men Amrit unless their wives took amrit as well. He always encouraged women to take AMrit which was becoming a rarity in those days . Even today nobody stresses rehat to women.
ਸਤਿਗੁਰਬਚਨਕਮਾਵਣੇਸਚਾਏਹੁਵੀਚਾਰੁ॥
