Jatha Logo

I have recently found out that, Singh’s in the UK are planning to design a Jatha Logo.
What is the sangat view on this?

They believe it’s a good idea for jatha to have one, as every jathebandi has one, but wouldn’t this touch the matter ekta !! People could argue by creating this logo a definite division has been made.

Please express you views...

If you look at old books of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee, there does seem to be a Logo on there, with the Pankiti - Iko Jap Iko Salaah.

Kulbir Singh

Reviving the logo mentioned by Bhai Kulbir Singh sounds like an interesting idea.

Khalsa Jio,

Waheguru JI Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Daas has little different thought by not in favor of any logo. Akhand Kirtani Jatha since past 110 years does great seva of Panth with logo of Nishkaam Kirtan seva, strict Rehat Rehini and when needed by shaheedis. If new generation can maintain that then what else logo is required. If anything needed to revive at Jatha level is to bring back the institution of Panj as ordained by Dasam Patshah when They send Baba Banda Singh Bahadur to Panjab. Until unless that one is revived no chardi kala will come back to Khalsa Panth. This is also a bachan of Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh jee that no jathebandi will survive for long they come and go. Look at our history Bhai Sahib's bachans are true. I think better to stay humble in service of Khalsa Panth with low profile as much as possible. These logo things are just shoshas for few days.

With Regards,
Daas

Gurfateh Jee,

Dass has got the orignal logo redesigned which i found in bhai randhir singh jees letter in bhai jodh singhs pustak.... you can have a look at it on my flickr page: [www.flickr.com]

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Gurfateh Jee

Bhai sahib bhai kulbir singh jee; the Iko Jap Iko Salaah logo is the logo for bhai sahibs trust in ludhiana!

I agree with Bh. Jasjit Singh jee.. what's the point in a logo? Where would Singhs have a need of printing it? AKJ Bulletin? or on Master Jaswant Singh jee's Gutkay? Jathaa's biggest advertisement and identity are Naam-Baani kamaaun vaale Singhs and Bibian.

I really hope Jathaa never puts a logo on Gutkay or any compilation of Gurbani. The first time I saw logos on Gutkay and Saincheeyaan was at a Gurdwara Sahib influenced by Taksal and I found it very disturbing to see "branded" Gutkay.. (i'm aware SGPC does it too, so to my Taksali brothers.. take no offense!)

We don't need any logo. Excellent post Bhai Jasjit Singh Ji.

"WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATHE" IN MY POINT OF VIEW AKJ ARE NOT KHALSA PANTH IT IS A PART OF KHALSA PANTH AND GURU SAHIB GAVE AGREAT LOGO THAT "KHANDA" SO ITHINK THERE WAS NOT ANY NEED SEPRATE LOGO BHUL CHUK MUAF DASS

Vaheguru JI Ka Khalsa, Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

Agree with Jasjit Singh and co. A Jatha 'logo' is not on the list of priorities at the moment. As veer 'harsh singh' says:

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GURU SAHIB GAVE AGREAT LOGO THAT "KHANDA"

Also, logo is a very commercial term. It seems like the main purpose it would serve would be to put on t-shirts the way so many Sikh youth groups do today... and why would we want to promote that when one could wear bana!!

I agree with Bhai Jasjit Singh ji and others. There is no need for the Jatha to have a logo representing it. The Jatha is represented in the Panth already and having a logo will not do anything for it's Chardikala. Instead, the Jatha should continue to read Bhai Sahib's books and implement the old ways of the Jatha again.

The logo will only be add to the "youth gang" culture around everywhere today and end up on T-Shirts etc.

The logo is going to be used on the posters and letters/documents or the advertising on the sikh channels in UK! The trust logo of Iko Jap Iko salah is already printed on amrit keertans & bhai sahibs books. i dont really see the big issue to be honest with you!

I was amazed by Bhai Harsh Singh Jee's post. This is so true.

Bhai Sahib Trust in Ludhiana is an institution that publishes and sells books (among other things), so obviously it is appropriate for them to have a logo just like all companies and publishing houses have.

AKJ is part of Khalsa Panth. Khalsa Panth already has best logo of:



Bhai Maha Singh Jee, that logo you have shared with us does not look nice, please abandon these plans.

If anything at all is even required on posters, ads etc just have a Khanda on it, then write AKJ separately on it. Everyone will get the message, as they already have been for last how ever many years.

master jaswant singh jee's gutka sahib contains the exact same khanda posted by veer Jaskirat Singh jee.

MahaSengh, of course we arn't discouraging you or any others for the design of the logo, and you're right, it is not a big deal.

But the fact remains, that there are bigger matters to be solved today than designing logos.

Also, the opinion of the sangat was asked and majority has refused. Daas would like to support the same.

The logo that was designed was not created by AKJ UK; i got it designed after seening it in bhai sahibs letter in bhai jodh singhs pustak, and i have suggested it to the akj uk if they want to use it after it was made, now that's up to them to use it or not... so yes i got it redesigned exactly the same but just a little bit touched up! and yes your right akj is under the khalsa panth so yeah we are using a khanda, not like we are using bhai sahibs image as a logo or something and yes we have put akj under the khanda seprately as u said too! and also the khanda image that jaskirat singh posted was designed by some one too

I don't think that the Jatha should have a logo. As mentioned before, this will make others think that a division has been made. This comes back to the point of Ekta. The panth should be ONE as a whole, not divided into different "groups."
Like sk bhenji mentioned, it's only going to end up on t-shirts, adding to the "youth groups" out there already.

Vaaheguru Jee Kaa Khalsaa Vaaheguru Jee Kee Fatehh!

I agree with people who are opposed to mindless groupism but I also think reviving the logo used by Bhai Sahib might serve as a connection/link between today's youth and the old time Jathaa. Most AKJ youth nowadays don't know much about Bhai Sahib and other Gursikhs from that time. They're more interested in the celebrity culture surrounding keertanees.

Bhai Sahib Ji, how is a logo going to connect us to Puratan times?

Doing veechara with senior gursikhs would connect with puratan times, keeping rehit behit would and www.gurmatbibek.com connect us with Puratan times, not logos.

no need for logo. we have been given bana by Guru Sahib, that identifies us as Sikhs/Khalsa, how can a logo be a better idea?

As Japnaam Singh Veer ji says, "reviving the logo used by Bhai Sahib", is it so? Did Veer Ji means Logo used by Bhai Sahib Randhir Singh Ji or the Trust named after Bhai Sahib Ji ?

Gurfateh Ji,

Guru Ji has given the best 'Logo'...the khandha...that is the Khalsa Panth logo, if AKJ create a logo to represent us, I think we are just going to open doors for people to name and shame Jatha!

Were not showing Ekta? its just another way to separatee us even more from everyone else.
We should concentrate more on doing more kaami and doing more seva to represent Jatha - this would be more beneficial then just a 'Logo' if you want to represent Jatha, what better way in starting to act like a true Jatha singh/singhni first, there wouldnt be a need for a logo in the first place if this was the case. We shouldn't need a logo, Jatha should be represented with us!! Not a image.

So many people already think AKJ, Taksaal, ect ect are just as bad as the caste system, why give more of an excuses to people to think this??
If I said anything wrong please forgive me,

Gupt singhni