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Gurmat and Honour Killings

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Gurmat and Honour Killings
June 30, 2010 09:43PM
There has been a severe backlash against Kaam activities of youngsters in North India including Punjab. What is the correct Gurmat stance if a Sikh girl or boy commits such act of Kaam as common now a days?

[timesofindia.indiatimes.com]

Honour killings: North India wages a vicious war against love

HISSAR: Nineteen honour killings between April 9 and June 30. That translates to 80 days. Roughly, one murder every four days. Clearly, north India is waging an undeclared war against love.

You might think, along with Khap officials, honour killings have to do with caste. But the real casualty is love. None of the murdered couples married by arrangement. Scratch the skin of caste, and out comes love, bleeding. Deep down, the real enemy of Khap is an emotion.

Brothers shooting sisters, grandmother killing granddaughter, mother strangling daughter, father arranging son's death. Honour killings offer a variety of combinations. All of them equally effective, all of them totally result oriented.

The death of the Delhi-based journalist Nirupama Pathak in her Koderma home for her relationship with a boy from a different caste and the arrest of her mother shook the country that has professed to evolve a casteless society.

Nirupama's turned out to be the first of a series of seemingly interminable killings. Not a single day passes without one or two reports of youngsters either being killed or being hounded by their families for the "crime" of falling in love. And it is turning relatives and friends, hitherto affectionate people, into demons.

Sociologist and JNU emeritus professor Yogendra Singh finds the recurring cases of honour killing "bewildering". Many factors seem to have overlapped, he says. "There was always a subterranean sentiment of male chauvinism lurking in the northern parts of the country, where female insubordination was always nipped in the bud. But even here, until recently, criminal acts were not sanctioned. Equally disturbing is the fact that caste killings are soft-pedalled as it hurts vote bank politics."

Capital city Delhi, for all its aspirations to be a truly international cultural centre, has seen three related honour killings in the last fortnight. And these murders were carried out by jeans-and T-shirt wearing youngsters, not the dhoti-kurta-pagri clad caste leaders.

There is a hum of anger in Haryana's Jatland against the state government for its alleged "misguided policies" (read liberal). The politically influential Jats are talking now of a "mahapanchayat", an extra-constitutional authority. And veiled threats are being made about cutting off Delhi's water supply unless the Hindu Marriage Act is changed to ban same-gotra and same-village marriages.

Says Rajkumar Numberdar, one of the more firebrand khap leader of Narnoud village: "It is not as if girls and boys did not fall in love earlier. But, of late, it is becoming difficult to control them because they know they just need to elope and ask for police protection. If politicians want to foist their warped ideas on us, why don't they first kill off village elders?"

Adds pradhan, Rajveer Dhanda: "If the government sends these elopers to jail instead of giving them police protection, the malaise will be taken care of in no time."

Village headmaster Dhoop Singh plays a mellower track, "Today's kids lack values. But, it is also true that we need to become more flexible and move with the times. It may make sense not to marry into the gotra of my mother or my grandmother, but why should entire villages -- at times dozens -- get together to establish brotherhoods and deny their children the right to live their lives their way?"

But Dhoop Singh is an exception. Said a 20-something junior teacher in Dhoop Singh's school to his boss, "Why don't you get your own son and daughter married then? Talk about change after that."

In Delhi, Kanjhawala resident Col (retd) Mehar Singh Dahiya, whose family has traditionally been an important player in the panchayat of the Dahiya Khap, does not agree with the term honour killing. "Why call it honour killing? It is a social compulsion that a father is under, because his daughter has shortchanged him by marrying against his will and has denied him spiritual upliftment that kanyadaan gives. In a way, the person you are calling killer is actually a victim of social circumstances." A daughter is precious, hence the pride in her, he adds. In other words, it's all for love.

Be it Nirupama's mother or the Sonepat grandmother, who killed her grand daughter, women seem to have made the transition from being mere spectators of honour killings to main actors.

"That's a generalization. It really depends on the circumstances in family and society," says DCP (Outer Delhi) Chhaya Sharma. "There is often an element of the killer's self-redemption before the eyes of the family after a daughter's conduct has caused shame. I can't really blame them. These women have for long been used to male domination, and they derive patriarchal values," he adds.

But all is not dark. Close to Narnoud is the Satror Khap comprising 40-50 villages that do not traditionally have intra-village marriages. "There are efforts now," says pradhan Inder Singh of Putthi village, "to break these up into smaller units -- tapas -- of 10-12 villages, where inter-marriage would be allowed."

It is not a sentimental decision. Says the pradhan's son, Bhagat Singh, a schoolteacher: "There are very few girls left and too many boys. Who will the boys marry otherwise?"

If social conditions are harbingers of change, will gotra and village taboos, too, go in the next 50 years? "Wait till the elders breathe their last. You will see change in 25 years," says Bhagat Singh.

But can lovers afford to wait that long?
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Re: Gurmat and Honour Killings
June 30, 2010 10:39PM
how can we put "gurmat" and "honor" killings in the same sentence???

there is no "honor" in killing someone who goes against faith or family. if they want to leave guru and family, how can we change that? surely not by murdering them. they'll get their punishment in dargah.

ਪਉੜੀ ॥
Pauree:

ਹਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਠਾਕੁਰੁ ਸੇਵਕੁ ਭਗਤੁ ਹਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਕਰੇ ਕਰਾਏ ॥
The Lord Himself is the Master, the servant and the devotee; the Lord Himself is the Cause of causes.

ਹਰਿ ਆਪੇ ਵੇਖੈ ਵਿਗਸੈ ਆਪੇ ਜਿਤੁ ਭਾਵੈ ਤਿਤੁ ਲਾਏ ॥
The Lord Himself beholds, and He Himself rejoices. As He wills, so does He enjoin us.

ਹਰਿ ਇਕਨਾ ਮਾਰਗਿ ਪਾਏ ਆਪੇ ਹਰਿ ਇਕਨਾ ਉਝੜਿ ਪਾਏ ॥
The Lord places some on the Path, and the Lord leads others into the wilderness.

ਹਰਿ ਸਚਾ ਸਾਹਿਬੁ ਸਚੁ ਤਪਾਵਸੁ ਕਰਿ ਵੇਖੈ ਚਲਤ ਸਬਾਏ ॥
The Lord is the True Master; True is His justice. He arranges and beholds all His plays.

ਗੁਰ ਪਰਸਾਦਿ ਕਹੈ ਜਨੁ ਨਾਨਕੁ ਹਰਿ ਸਚੇ ਕੇ ਗੁਣ ਗਾਏ ॥੫॥
By Guru's Grace, servant Nanak speaks and sings the Glorious Praises of the True Lord. ||5||
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When my non-Sikh friend went to India a couple of years ago to get an arranged married the person he was going to marry had her boyfriend write a false letter. Hey boyfriend wrote a false letter to the girls family saying that my friend was a drug dealer and gangster, haha. The boyfriend was obviously willing to do anything so his girl friend would not get married to my friend. It seems like this concept of love before marriage is becoming dominant amongst the youth in Punjab. Young couples are experimenting with one another and bringing dishonor to their family.

However, I dont see murder as the proper punishment. In an ideal SIkh society the people would be banished, but in a secular society I dont know what the solution is.
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In an ideal SIkh society the people would be banished

I consulted dictionary for banish. The meaning goes from deporting to excommunicating. Deporting seems too much and excommunicating, we do practise in Gurmat.
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Sorry for not emphasizing . When I say banish I meant to say banished from society ( sangat). Meaning people would not socialize with such people unless they go for pesh and change their ways.
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Re: Gurmat and Honour Killings
July 01, 2010 01:15PM
it's not only in india people are lying to mess up marriage arrangements based on their own kaam... it happens right here in the US too, and can ruin not only the marriage arrangement, but also the reputation and "honor" of the girl involved. jatha sangat is small and word travels fast. these things can ruin lives.

it really bothers me that in asian culture (even in the west), the burden "honor" all lies on the girl, even if she's completely innocent. sad smiley

sukhdeep veerjee, i agree, the one doing the lying should be excluded from sangat until peshed.
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I agree with Bhain jee in saying that according to Gurmat, there is no honour in killing and that the one committing a Kaamic act would get punished by Vaheguru.

Having said that, there is no doubt that the reputation of the family and the girl or boy committing such Kaamic acts, gets stained. So much so that other siblings of the person committing such an act would have hard time getting married. The father or brother of a girl who has run away with some boy to get married, loses face. Gurmukhs can face the society because they are strong but normal people get devastated when their daughters or sisters run away with someone or commit Kaamic acts. I think its the height of seflishness that the girl or boy who brings shame to the family forgets the consequences their family has to face for their carnal desires. The family that nurtures them, fulfull all their needs is left to suffer and many times these girls who run away with their boyfriends get dumped by them and then they return to their family to increase their suffering. They become a heavy burden on their family. Many families have been destroyed because of these shameless acts of teenagers.

What would a Gurmukh do in such case as above? Here is what comes to mind:

1. An ounce of prevention is better than a pound of cure. Gurmukhs bring up their children in a loving Gurmukhi atmosphere and as a result of this, their children are less likely to commit such acts.

2. Gurmukhs do Ardaas and Paath for their family - Sukhi Basai moro Parivaara - and this results in their children getting protected by Vaheguru.

3. If as a result of past Karma such an incident does occur with a Gurmukh, the ideal thing to do would be to meet senior Gurmukhs of the area and seek their guidance and request them to do Ardaas and Paath for the betterment of the situation.

4. A Gurmukh does not keep a relation with their children unconditionally. If their children give up Gurmat, then what need does the Gurmukh have for such children? A Gurmukh would totally eschew all relations with such manmukhi children.

5. In case the child wants to join back the family, such child must first get pesh before making such child Abhed with the family.

6. A Gurmukh does not become stubborn when forgiving. Forgiveness is a vital virtue of a Gurmukh.

Guru Sahib knows better.

Daas,
Kulbir Singh
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