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Is Krishan Avatar a translation of Hindu Puran ?????

Posted by harinder_singh 
There are three sections in Krishna avtar of dasam granth sahib. Bal leela, ras mandal and Yudh parbandh. Yudh parbandh or War mangament is totally new and completely written by Guru sahib himself. It is the largest section and is not found in Bhagwat puranas.The hero of this is Kharag singh and not krishna. Kharag singh fights against krishna as krishna had killed his friend Jarasandh. He is shown fighting a war of self righteousness. The following verses illustrate this when he having put krishna on ground releases Him out of pity.

ਜਬਹਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਭਜਤ ਨਿਹਾਰਿਓ ॥ ਇਹੈ ਆਪਨੈ ਹ੍ਰਿਦੈ ਬਿਚਾਰਿਓ ॥ਅਬ ਹਉ ਆਪਨ ਇਹ ਸੰਗ ਲਰੋ ॥ ਕੈ ਅਰਿ ਮਾਰੋ ਕੈ ਲਰਿ ਮਰੋ ॥੧੫੨੯॥
When Krishna saw Shiva running away, then he reflected in his mind that he would then fight with the enemy himself; either he would kill the enemy of die himself.1529.


ਜਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਉ ਨਿਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਸਚੀਪਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਸਨਕਾਦਿਕ ਹੂ ਜਪੁ ਕੀਨੋ ॥ ਸੂਰ ਸਸੀ ਸੁਰ ਨਾਰਦ ਸਾਰਦ ਤਾਹੀ ਕੈ ਧਿਆਨ ਬਿਖੈ ਮਨੁ ਦੀਨੋ ॥
He, whose name is muttered ever by Brahma, Indra, Sanak etc.; He, on whom Surya, Chandra, Narada, Sharda meditate;

ਖੋਜਤ ਹੈ ਜਿਹ ਸਿੱਧ ਮਹਾਮੁਨ ਬਿਆਸ ਪਰਾਸੁਰ ਭੇਦ ਨ ਚੀਨੋ ॥ ਸੋ ਖੜਗੇਸ਼ ਅਯੋਧਨ ਮੈ ਕਰ ਮੋ ਹਿਤ ਕੇਸਨ ਤੇ ਗਹਿ ਲੀਨੋ ॥੧੫੩੧॥
He, whom the adepts search in their contemplation and whose mystery is not comprehended by the great sages like Vyas and Prashar, Kharag Singh caught him in the battlefield by his hair.1531.

ਸ੍ਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਸ਼ੱਤ੍ਰ ਅਨੇਕ ਹਨੇ ਤਿਹ ਕਉਨ ਗਨੇ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਪ੍ਰਬੀਨੋ ॥ ਕੰਸ ਕਉ ਕੇਸਨ ਤੇ ਗਹਿ ਕੇਸਵ ਭੂਪ ਮਨੋ ਬਦਲੋ ਵਹ ਲੀਨੋ ॥੧੫੩੨॥
That Krishna, who had knocked down many enemies with skill and killed Kansa by catching him from his hair; the name Krishna has been caught by his hair by the king Kharag Singh; it seems that he has avenged the killing of Kansa by catching his hair.1532

ਚਿੰਤ ਕਰੀ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਭੂਪਤ ਜੋ ਦਿਹ ਕਉ ਅਬ ਹਉ ਬਧ ਕੈ ਹਉ ॥ ਸੈਨ ਸਭੈ ਭਜ ਹੈ ਜਬ ਹੀ ਤਬ ਕਾ ਸੰਗ ਜਾਇ ਕੈ ਜੁੱਧੁ ਮਚੈ ਹਉ ॥
The king then thought that if he killed Krishna, all his army would run away; with whom then he would fight?

ਹਉ ਕਿਹ ਪੈ ਕਰਿਹੋ ਬਹੁ ਘਾਇਨ ਕਾ ਕੇ ਹਉ ਘਾਇ ਸਨਮੁਖ ਖੈ ਹਉ ॥ਛਾਡ ਦਯੋ ਕਹਿਓ ਜਾਹੁ ਚਲੋ ਹਰਿ ਤੋ ਸਮ ਸੂਰ ਕਹੂੰ ਨਹੀ ਪੈ ਹਉ ॥੧੫੩੩॥
To whom then he would inflict a wound or from whom he be wounded himself? Therefore, the king set Krishna free and said," Go away, there is no other warrior like you."1533.

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Krishnavtar is actually a loose translation of Srimad Bhagvat Puraan. I have not done much study of Krishnavatar but from what I have read about it, it seems like the Prasang of Kharag Singh is not in any Puraan.

If someone can shed more light with respect to this, it would be great.

Kulbir Singh
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Krishna avtar is not a complete translation from Bhagwat/skande puranas.

Judh parbandh is completely new.It forms large part of Krishna avtar. Other two sections have been altered with input form Guru sahib here and there.

This is informative from post on sikhnet.

There is a sizeable section of krishna avtar that is totally new. It shows krishna fighting against warrior Kharag singh.The real hero of war is Kharag singh and not krishna.Krishna is shown in very poor light while fighting against Kharag singh.All Gods such as shiva , brahma come to help Krishna but kharag singh make them to flee battlefield.

Read some of the verses

ਜਬਹਿ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨ ਸ਼ਿਵ ਭਜਤ ਨਿਹਾਰਿਓ ॥ ਇਹੈ ਆਪਨੈ ਹ੍ਰਿਦੈ ਬਿਚਾਰਿਓ ॥ਅਬ ਹਉ ਆਪਨ ਇਹ ਸੰਗ ਲਰੋ ॥ ਕੈ ਅਰਿ ਮਾਰੋ ਕੈ ਲਰਿ ਮਰੋ ॥੧੫੨੯॥
जबहि क्रिशन शिव भजत निहारिओ ॥ इहै आपनै ह्रिदै बिचारिओ ॥अब हउ आपन इह संग लरो ॥ कै अरि मारो कै लरि मरो ॥१५२९॥
When Krishna saw Shiva running away, then he reflected in his mind that he would then fight with the enemy himself; either he would kill the enemy of die himself.1529.

ਤਬ ਤਿਹ ਸਉਹੈ ਹਰਿ ਜੂ ਗਯੋ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਭਨੈ ਅਤਿ ਜੁੱਧ ਮਚਯੋ ॥ ਤਬ ਤਿਨ ਤਕਿ ਤਿਹ ਬਾਨ ਲਗਾਯੋ ॥ ਸਯੰਦਨ ਤੇ ਹਰਿ ਭੂਮ ਗਿਰਾਯੋ ॥੧੫੩੦॥
तब तिह सउहै हरि जू गयो ॥ राम भनै अति जु्ध मचयो ॥ तब तिन तकि तिह बान लगायो ॥ सयंदन ते हरि भूम गिरायो ॥१५३०॥
Then Krishna went before the king and waged a dreadful war; making him the target, the king shot an arrow and dismounted Krishna from his chariot.1530.

ਕਬਿਯੋ ਬਾਚ ॥
कबियो बाच ॥
Speech of the poet:

ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥
सवैया ॥
SWAYYA

ਜਾ ਪ੍ਰਭ ਕਉ ਨਿਤ ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਸਚੀਪਤਿ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਸਨਕਾਦਿਕ ਹੂ ਜਪੁ ਕੀਨੋ ॥ ਸੂਰ ਸਸੀ ਸੁਰ ਨਾਰਦ ਸਾਰਦ ਤਾਹੀ ਕੈ ਧਿਆਨ ਬਿਖੈ ਮਨੁ ਦੀਨੋ ॥
जा प्रभ कउ नित ब्रहम सचीपति स्री सनकादिक हू जपु कीनो ॥ सूर ससी सुर नारद सारद ताही कै धिआन बिखै मनु दीनो ॥
He, whose name is muttered ever by Brahma, Indra, Sanak etc.; He, on whom Surya, Chandra, Narada, Sharda meditate;

ਖੋਜਤ ਹੈ ਜਿਹ ਸਿੱਧ ਮਹਾਮੁਨ ਬਿਆਸ ਪਰਾਸੁਰ ਭੇਦ ਨ ਚੀਨੋ ॥ ਸੋ ਖੜਗੇਸ਼ ਅਯੋਧਨ ਮੈ ਕਰ ਮੋ ਹਿਤ ਕੇਸਨ ਤੇ ਗਹਿ ਲੀਨੋ ॥੧੫੩੧॥
खोजत है जिह सि्ध महामुन बिआस परासुर भेद न चीनो ॥ सो खड़गेश अयोधन मै कर मो हित केसन ते गहि लीनो ॥१५३१॥
He, whom the adepts search in their contemplation and whose mystery is not comprehended by the great sages like Vyas and Prashar, Kharag Singh caught him in the battlefield by his hair.1531.


ਸ੍ਰੀ ਹਰਿ ਸ਼ੱਤ੍ਰ ਅਨੇਕ ਹਨੇ ਤਿਹ ਕਉਨ ਗਨੇ ਕਬਿ ਸਯਾਮ ਪ੍ਰਬੀਨੋ ॥ ਕੰਸ ਕਉ ਕੇਸਨ ਤੇ ਗਹਿ ਕੇਸਵ ਭੂਪ ਮਨੋ ਬਦਲੋ ਵਹ ਲੀਨੋ ॥੧੫੩੨॥
स्री हरि श्त्र अनेक हने तिह कउन गने कबि सयाम प्रबीनो ॥ कंस कउ केसन ते गहि केसव भूप मनो बदलो वह लीनो ॥१५३२॥
That Krishna, who had knocked down many enemies with skill and killed Kansa by catching him from his hair; the name Krishna has been caught by his hair by the king Kharag Singh; it seems that he has avenged the killing of Kansa by catching his hair.1532


ਸਵੈਯਾ ॥
सवैया ॥
SWAYYA

ਚਿੰਤ ਕਰੀ ਚਿਤ ਮੈ ਭੂਪਤ ਜੋ ਦਿਹ ਕਉ ਅਬ ਹਉ ਬਧ ਕੈ ਹਉ ॥ ਸੈਨ ਸਭੈ ਭਜ ਹੈ ਜਬ ਹੀ ਤਬ ਕਾ ਸੰਗ ਜਾਇ ਕੈ ਜੁੱਧੁ ਮਚੈ ਹਉ ॥
चिंत करी चित मै भूपत जो दिह कउ अब हउ बध कै हउ ॥ सैन सभै भज है जब ही तब का संग जाइ कै जु्धु मचै हउ ॥
The king then thought that if he killed Krishna, all his army would run away; with whom then he would fight?

ਹਉ ਕਿਹ ਪੈ ਕਰਿਹੋ ਬਹੁ ਘਾਇਨ ਕਾ ਕੇ ਹਉ ਘਾਇ ਸਨਮੁਖ ਖੈ ਹਉ ॥ਛਾਡ ਦਯੋ ਕਹਿਓ ਜਾਹੁ ਚਲੋ ਹਰਿ ਤੋ ਸਮ ਸੂਰ ਕਹੂੰ ਨਹੀ ਪੈ ਹਉ ॥੧੫੩੩॥
हउ किह पै करिहो बहु घाइन का के हउ घाइ सनमुख खै हउ ॥छाड दयो कहिओ जाहु चलो हरि तो सम सूर कहूं नही पै हउ ॥१५३३॥
To whom then he would inflict a wound or from whom he be wounded himself? Therefore, the king set Krishna free and said," Go away, there is no other warrior like you."1533.


ਚੌਪਈ ॥
चौपई ॥
CHAUPAI

ਛਾਡ ਕੇਸ ਤੇ ਜਬ ਹਰਿ ਦਯੋ ॥ ਲੱਜਤ ਭਯੋ ਬਿਸਰ ਬਲ ਗਯੋ ॥ ਤਬ ਬ੍ਰਹਮਾ ਪ੍ਰਤੱਛ ਹੁਇ ਆਯੋ ॥ ਕ੍ਰਿਸ਼ਨ ਤਾਪ ਤਿਨ ਸਕਲ ਮਿਟਾਯੋ ॥੧੫੩੫॥
छाड केस ते जब हरि दयो ॥ ल्जत भयो बिसर बल गयो ॥ तब ब्रहमा प्रत्छ हुइ आयो ॥ क्रिशन ताप तिन सकल मिटायो ॥१५३५॥
When Krishna was set free, by loosening the grasp of his hair, he forgot his power and felt ashamed; then Brahma manifested himself and ended the mental anxiety of Krishna.1535.

Krishna avtar , dasam granth

The above verses and hundred others decimate the propaganda of detractors who term this granth as Hindu.Kharag
Singh is shown as a great fighter who fights for avenging injustice doen to his friend by Krishna. he is shown as a fealess warrior whi is not awed by forces of Krishna that are helped by all demigods, Kaurava, pandvas and Muslims.

Guru ji set role model of kharag singh for his future khalsa

ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ ॥
स्वैया ॥
SWAYYA

ਪਸਚਮ ਸੂਰ ਚੜੇ ਕਬਹੂ ਅਰੁ ਗੰਗ ਬਹੀ ਉਲਟੀ ਜੀਅ ਆਵੈ ॥ ਜੇਠ ਕੇ ਮਾਸ ਤਖਾਰ ਪਰੇ ਬਨ ਅਉਰ ਬਸੰਤ ਸਮੀਰ ਜਰਾਵੈ ॥
पसचम सूर चड़े कबहू अरु गंग बही उलटी जीअ आवै ॥ जेठ के मास तखार परे बन अउर बसंत समीर जरावै ॥
Even if the sun rises from the west and the Ganges flows contrary to its course; even if it snows in the month of Jyeshth and the wind of spring gives scorching heat;

ਲੋਕ ਹਲੈ ਧ੍ਰੂਅ ਕੋ ਜਲ ਕੋ ਥਲ ਹੁਇ ਥਲ ਕੋ ਕਬਹੂ ਜਲੁ ਜਾਵੈ ॥ ਕੰਚਨ ਕੇ ਨਗੁ ਪੰਖਨ ਧਾਰਿ ਉਡੈ ਖੜਗੇਸ਼ ਨ ਪੀਠ ਦਿਖਾਵੈ ॥੧੬੧੩॥
लोक हलै ध्रूअ को जल को थल हुइ थल को कबहू जलु जावै ॥ कंचन के नगु पंखन धारि उडै खड़गेश न पीठ दिखावै ॥१६१३॥
Even if the stable pole star moves and if the waters turn into plain and plain into waters and if the Sumeru mountain flies with wings, Kharag Singh will never get back from the war-arena.1613.

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